|05.21.16 at 8:37 pm ET|
WALTHAM — A show of hands: Who remembers, without googling, when John Stockton was taken in the 1984 draft?
If you answered 16th, you win the prize for best understanding where we’re going with the following premise. As much as will be made of the significance of the third overall pick in the NBA (and understandably so), the Celtics also own the 16th and 23rd picks in the June 23 restocking exercise called the NBA draft and could wind up with a gem.
In that ’84 draft, everyone remembers eventual Hall of Famers Hakeem Olajuwon went first overall to the Rockets, Michael Jordan third to the Bulls and Charles Barkley fifth to the Sixers. But it was another future Hall of Famer in Stockton who slipped through the cracks and fell to the Jazz at 16.
There was a lot of talk this week from the Celtics about why those second two first-round picks shouldn’t be forgotten. One high-ranking executive told me, “We are in a great position. The Nets did the losing for us to get the third overall pick and we have Dallas’ and our own. This should be a lot of fun for Danny.”
Indeed, the Celtics president of basketball operations and his son, Austin, the director of player personnel, not only will have multiple scenarios for No. 3 but 16 and 23 as well.
“Obviously, you have to prepare for the entire draft, and we do that with every draft. It doesn’t really change that much for our preparation,” Austin Ainge said. “But obviously, toward the top of draft, it usually has a bigger impact on your franchise so you try to focus a lot on those guys. But there are franchise that have been drafted in every range, and that’s the benefit of having multiple picks, multiple swings at the bat.
“It’s all in context. You have their high school career, their college career, their workouts, their measurements, some of the background information we collect. It all just adds up so it’s all just small bits of information adding together. Can’t let one bit sway everything, and certainly a workout won’t, but it helps us.
“I think that’s the case in every draft, and it’s not that they end up being the same, it’s just hard for us to tell. We always say six of these next 40 picks are going to end up being really good players. It’s just that we don’t know which ones. It’s hard.”
|05.20.16 at 2:10 pm ET|
As the days pass leading up to June’s NBA draft, we want to encourage the debate regarding what the Celtics should do with the No. 3 overall pick. In that spirit, we present, “Celtics choice.”
Today: Using the No. 3 pick on Oklahoma scorer Buddy Hield or Cal forward Jaylen Brown
The case for Hield
Did you watch a second of college basketball this season? Hield was a monster, adding dribble penetration and increased range to his explosive offensive game. He averaged 25 points a game and shot .457 from 3-point territory. His shot chart is off the charts, with above-average production from everywhere on the floor except the left baseline. As a senior, he’s more polished than most of the teens and freshmen coming out this year. And he demonstrated an ability to hit big, clutch shots throughout his senior year, leading the Sooners to the Final Four, where they lost to Villanova, the eventual champs.
The case against Hield
The senior thing actually works against him among NBA types concerned that he’s already at or near his ceiling. There are also legitimate questions about his foot speed and ability to create his own shot at the next level. He’s also considered a subpar defender, though Brad Stevens could change that. The biggest knock on Hield is that he’s a finished product with a not of room to grow, and in the NBA everyone loves the ability to daydream about best-case scenario projections.
The case for Brown
Brown is in many ways the opposite of Hield: He’s a raw athlete with explosive leaping ability, but an unpolished offensive game. The 6-foot-7, 220-pounder could excel in one of Stevens’ small-ball lineups as an undersized but athletic power forward who creates matchup problems on both ends while defending multiple positions. He’s a tremendous finisher on the break and at the rim, and a good rebounder for his size. He averaged 14.6 points and 5.4 rebounds a game as a freshman.
The case against Brown
His offense is limited. He shot just .294 on 3-pointers and .654 on free throws. He also disappeared down the stretch, shooting a combined 5-for-29 in his conference tournament and NCAA tourney games. Cal was a one-and-done against Hawaii in the Big Dance, and Brown finished his career with just four points and two rebounds while committing seven turnovers. He’s got a little bit of Jared Sullinger to his offensive game in that he’ll pound the ball and take contested jumpers.
Brown may be more athletic and projectable, but Hield has the potential to be a legit NBA scorer with unlimited range. We’ll take polish over potential.
|05.19.16 at 6:17 pm ET|
As the days pass by leading up to this year’s NBA Draft, we want to encourage the debate regarding what the Celtics should do with the No. 3 overall pick. In that spirit, we present, “Celtics choice”
Today: Trading for Jahlil Okafor, using the No. 3 pick as the primary chip, or drafting Dragan Bender.
The case for Okafor
As the No. 3 overall pick a year ago, the Sixers forward established himself as a legitimate, top-notch NBA big man. At just 20 years old, Okafor was named to the NBA All-Rookie team, having averaged 17.5 points and seven rebounds while playing 30 minutes per contest. He’s the legitimate, go-to, 7-footer the Celtics crave.
The case against Okafor
Google “Okafor, trouble” and you’ll get a flurry of posts using words like “off-court incident.” He also isn’t the kind of rebounder the Celtics might want from their presence in the paint.
|05.19.16 at 1:43 pm ET|
According to a story on Bleacher Report, the Lakers will seriously entertain offers for the No. 2 pick in the draft, which is widely expected to be Duke shooter Brandon Ingram. Such a move could seriously impact the Celtics.
If Los Angeles deals the No. 2 pick, that would make the Celtics’ third pick that much less valuable. If the 76ers select LSU’s Ben Simmons first overall, as expected, the Lakers hold the ticket for Ingram. The talent drop-off is considered steep after those two and the Celtics own first crack at the best of the rest.
Still, if a club is willing to listen on a player like Chicago’s Jimmy Butler, Indiana’s Paul George, or Philadelphia’s Jahlil Okafor, the second pick will be a lot more enticing than the third.
The Lakers, according to the report, are willing to listen on the pick because they want to improve sooner rather than later, particularly with the 76ers holding their first-round pick next year if it falls outside the top three.
From the story:
Still, the Lakers will actively explore trading the pick. They want to get better as soon as possible—in part to make sure Philadelphia doesn’t get too good of a pick next year when the Lakers’ first-rounder conveys to the 76ers if it’s outside the top three. Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak is also seeking a better blend of youth and experience on the roster.
But it’s an open question if the Lakers can find a star another club is willing to send away. Trading away the likes of Paul George or Jimmy Butler would be hard-to-explain steps back for the Pacers or Bulls. And with George Karl gone and a new arena to open, the Kings aren’t likely to move DeMarcus Cousins.
It’s also valid to wonder why the Lakers would want to give up young assets they have under cost-controlled contracts that would fit perfectly with massive incoming free-agent deals.
So while nothing is definite with any of these picks, it’s worth noting that the Celtics may soon have some competition on the trade front.
|05.19.16 at 12:49 pm ET|
WALTHAM — Nigel Hayes knows you need confidence to play in the NBA.
The 6-foot-6 forward from Wisconsin also knows you need a jumper to play for the Celtics.
Hayes showed this week he has the first component. And he told the Celtics he can definitely work on the second.
“We were talking in the locker room, we need a wing player, someone who can really shoot the ball well. I told the guys, ‘Take me third, I’ll shoot 5,000 shots a day for you. I’ll go stand in the corner and knock down shots for you.’
“Just show them that if they need a wing player, I could fill that void. All you’ve got to do is just put in the time to be a good shooter. Putting in the time would be no problem, make a lot of shots a day, hopefully get in some games. Hopefully, make some shots in a game and have a great career.”
Hayes was a 44.1 percent shooter from the field in his three years at Wisconsin, which included 12 points and five rebounds in the 2015 NCAA national semifinal stunner over Kentucky. In that game, he knocked down 2-of-5 from 3-point range.
When Hayes spoke Wednesday, he was asked why confidence is such a big part of his game.
“I always think it’s a great thing. The number one question they ask: ‘Why should we pick you on our team?’ My first response is always, ‘I’m a winner.’ Obviously, you need winners. Winners know what to do to win. They can help those around them win. Also, I’m a basketball player and I think if you want to be good or great at any level at anything you do, you need confidence in yourself. I’ll always have confidence in my abilities on the basketball court.”
|05.19.16 at 11:27 am ET|
WALTHAM – One takeaway from the news that Kris Dunn reportedly doesn’t want to be chosen by the Celtics with the third pick is that he and his handlers are fairly confident that he’ll be the first guard taken.
This nugget is of keen interest to the Celtics, and in particular director of player personnel Austin Ainge.
“Over the next little while we’ll figure out who is confident in their pick range and who wants to come in and who doesn’t,” Ainge said Wednesday after the Celtics held pre-draft workouts for several prospects. “The picks between 3 and 16, there’ll probably be a couple of guys who’ll say, ‘We’re not going 3, we’re not going 16, so we’re not going to come in.’ So, there’ll probably be a couple.”
Now Ainge and the Celtics can narrow down the pre-draft field to those players they are targeting.
“We’ll start that coming up here,” Ainge said. “Probably a little of both but we’ll have to see.”
In addition to owning the third overall pick, the Celtics have the 16th and 23rd picks in the first round and five picks in the second round.
“The higher the draft pick, you have a better chance,” Ainge said. “There’s going to be really good players available at 16, there’s going to be really good players available at 23. It’s just harder to identify in that range. It’s a little harder. We’re going to work really hard to do the best we can.”
Ainge’s comments Wednesday were interesting because they came before the news of Dunn’s wish not be drafted by the Celtics came out.
With the Celtics in the market for a wing shooter and rim protector, a guard wouldn’t seem to be at the top of their list. But Danny Ainge said Tuesday after the lottery that his objective would be to take the best player available with the third overall pick. If the Celtics are looking at guards, especially later in the draft, the ideal situation would be to get a lot of them on the court at the same time to compete against one another.
To do that, the Celtics must first contact those players who have already hired agents and get in touch with others who have not.
“Everything has been on hold for a lot of the guys that feel they’re in the range for No. 3 until the lottery and so, we’ll start those negotiations with the agents coming up here,” Austin Ainge said. “So, I don’t know yet, to be honest.”
|05.19.16 at 9:50 am ET|
The Celtics may take a long, hard look at Kris Dunn as a candidate for their third overall pick in the upcoming draft.
But the feeling may not be mutual.
According to veteran NBA scribe and Yahoo Sports insider Adrian Wojnarowski, those handling the star point guard out of Providence don’t want him working out for or being taken by Boston.
The reason is simple. The Celtics already have an established point guard in Isaiah Thomas and the possibility of moving Thomas to the ‘2’ guard is iffy at best. It’s the same case in Phoenix, which has Eric Bledsoe running the point.
Why is this such a big deal?
At 6-foot-4 and having played in the guard-heavy Big East, Dunn is regarded as the best point guard in this class, with draft projections have him going anywhere from third to sixth. Dunn didn’t take a physical at the Chicago combine, so the possibility exists that he could withhold medical information from the teams in addition to not meeting with or working out for them.
“They can’t stop them from drafting Dunn, but will those teams do it without his medical records, without a personal workout, without an interview with him? Because I’m told Boston and Phoenix will likely have to do that with Dunn,” Wojnarowski said in his “The Vertical” podcast.
It’s going to be fascinating to see what the Celtics do because they could theoretically trade with the point-less Sixers, who are reportedly dying to get out of the No. 1 spot and drop to No. 3 and draft Dunn as their point guard of the future. The Celtics would assumedly love to move up to the top spot and get Brandon Ingram and certainly have the equity to do so, with eight draft picks, including three in the first round.
If the Celtics hold at No. 3, they are likely to target 18-year-old Dragen Bender, the 7-foot Croatian wing shooter they could use. Danny Ainge said Tuesday after the lottery that if the Celtics hold onto their No. 3 pick, they will take the best player available, and Bender would seem to fit that mold more than Dunn in terms of their needs.
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