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Celtics-Spurs Game Blog: Second Quarter

02.08.09 at 1:37 pm ET
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FIRST HALF NOTES AND NUMBERS: Spurs 60, Celtics 52

  • Leading Scorers: Bonner/Duncan: 16 points
  • Leading Rebounder: Duncan: 7
  • Leading Assists: Rondo: 7
  • Points in the Paint: Celtics 32 – Spurs 24
  • Fast Break Points: Celtics 8 – Spurs 4
  • Free Throws: Spurs: 7/7 – Celtics 5/8
  • Minutes: Pierce/Rondo/Duncan: 19

At the start of the quarter … Celtics 23, Spurs 22

For Paul’s first quarter recap, click here.

Second Quarter Observations

- On the court at the start of the 2nd … Celtics: Powe/Davis/T. Allen/R. Allen/House … Spurs: Hill/Finley/Bonner/Ginobili/Thomas

- Ray Allen has the hot hand for the Celtics this afternoon, scoring 12 points (5/8 FG) in the first 16 minutes.

- Even with Tim Duncan on the court, the Celtics are outscoring the Spurs 22-10 in the paint.

- There always seems to be a fan favorite red head at the Garden. With Brian Scalabrine out (concussion), New Hampshire native Matt Bonner is getting the cheers today. He is the game’s leading scorer with 13 points.  Scal is in the building but is not watching the game on the sidelines.

- With two minutes to go Rajon Rondo (6 points, 7 assists) has the edge over Tony Parker (5 points, 5 assists) in the battle of the point guards. Both have only hit one shot outside of the paint.

- The controversial calls continue at the Garden. Perkins was whistled for a foul late in the second against Tim Duncan. The boos from the fans rivaled the jeers from Thursday’s game against the Lakers. Perkins doesn’t get much love around the league, either. He tied for first in the Sports Illustrated Player Poll: Which NBA player thinks he’s a lot better than he really is?

- At halftime … Spurs 60, Celtics 52

Celtics-Spurs Game Blog: First Quarter

02.08.09 at 12:56 pm ET
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We are live from courtside on a Sunday afternoon for the Celtics and the Spurs. Unlike Thursday’s epic showdown with the Lakers which brought out some 15 LA media members and a handful of national NBA types, the mood here is decidedly tame. That’s in perfect harmony with the legacy the Spurs have carved out during the Tim Duncan era.

They have four championships, or one more than the Kobe-Shaq Lakers. They have the respect of everyone in the league, or at least those that know basketball, and they are a model of a well-run, efficient professional organization. In other words, bor-ing.

Well, maybe. But I’ll take Spurs-Celtics on a Sunday afternoon any day.

FIRST QUARTER WRAP: For two teams that made their bones playing defense, the first 12 minutes were a clinic in half-court offense. Both teams are shooting about 50 percent and have executed their offenses fairly well. Good start to this one.

Jess has you covered for the second quarter.

First Quarter Observations

– KG is on Matt Bonner and vice-versa. Like everyone else I’d love to see KG and Duncan battle for 35 minutes today, and no doubt they will see each other quite a bit. It would be interesting to see what would happen in the Finals if these two teams meet.

– Ronnie Garretson is working today’s game. Let’s just say from an experience standpoint that is an upgrade from the crew who worked Thursday. Doc Rivers was fined 15 grand for saying the refs lost control of the game. Talking about it before the game it seemed pretty clear that Doc considered it money well-spent.

– If you were scoring this as in a boxing match, you would have a draw in the first round. Lots of little interesting things going on, but no big punches thrown or landed yet.

– Pierce is matched up with Manu, which is a really fun combination. They are different players, to be sure, but both know every trick in the book. On the opposite part of the spectrum, you have Manu’s speed and quickness versus Pierce’s strength, but both are hellacious competitors.

– Here’s the big difference between the two teams. San Antonio’s bench is deep and versatile. Part of that is having Ginobli as a Sixth Man where he plays starters minutes. But Kurt Thomas is the kind of experienced tough big man teams are always looking for (especially the Celtics), and Bruce Bowen hasn’t made an appearance yet. Also keep an eye on rookie George Hill. The bench gives Gregg Popovich all kinds of options and scenarios.

– Perkins can get that little jump-hook off a post-up whenever he wants it because no one is going to double off Garnett, Pierce or Allen to stop it. If he can develop confidence in that move he can take the next step as a player.

– Versatility example. Pop brought Michael Finley back to deal with Pierce and force the Celtics to put Ray Allen on Ginobli, which is a much better match up for them.

Who needs Marbury?

02.07.09 at 12:06 am ET
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NEW YORK — There is a fur-lined coat and baseball cap hanging in Stephon Marbury’s locker. They don’t belong to Marbury, though. Al Harrington is using the empty space for storage. Many of the Knicks don’t need Marbury or his belongings in their locker room. In fact, they aren’t sure who needs him either.

“It’s hard to say,” said Jared Jeffries. “There’s a lot of ‘what ifs.’”

There is no question Marbury is a talented point guard, his teammates don’t deny that. He is a two-time All-Star with a career average of nearly 20 points and eight assists per game over the course of 11 years. These are numbers that rival premiere point guards like Dwyane Wade, Allen Iverson, and Chris Paul.

“Obviously Steph is an experienced guard,” said David Lee. “He’s been in the league a long time. He’s been through the battles in the West and the battles in the East. He’s a guy that’s obviously a very skilled player.”

Jeffries concurred.

“He’s definitely a talented player,” he said. “He’s a big guard, he’s a really good scorer, he’s scored a lot in this league. He’s a good point guard, he really is talent-wise. He’s a really good point guard so any time you have a talent like that you could use that.”

Yet the Knicks don’t want to use that talent. The experience and stats are there, but is the potential to help a team win it all? While rookie Anthony Roberson praised his mentorship off the court, his teammates are indecisive about what he has to offer anymore.

“I don’t know,” Lee said of Marbury’s abilities to help a team in the running for the title. “I’m not sure if he’s ever been to the Finals. I could be wrong. It’ll be interesting to see and it’ll be interesting to see what happens with Steph and New York and if he does get released or if he decides to go to another team. I heard them talking about that during the TNT game against L.A. the other night. That should be interesting.”

What’s more interesting is the fact that Lee has been Marbury’s teammate since 2005 and he can’t form a decisive opinion. But teams like the world champion Boston Celtics have still expressed interest in Marbury, dramatics and all. So why, if a team of that caliber is willing to take a closer look at him, can’t his teammates who know his game best speak to his value?

Don’t ask Nate Robinson. Even though he entered the NBA as Marbury’s back up, he no longer feels comfortable commenting on the issue. The one thing the Knicks are certain on is their choice of point guard this season. Chris Duhon leads the floor without the drama, an asset they’d take any day.

“He’s a guy that really knows how to play the game,” Lee said of Duhon. “But we are very happy with what Chris has done this year. I’m not sure you could ask for any more than Chris has done. Steph’s a great guard, but we’re very happy with Duhon.”

The fur-lined coat and baseball cap still hung in Stephon Marbury’s locker after the Celtics banned together to beat the Knicks on Friday night. They won with a fourth quarter push fueled by communication and chemistry. It’s the type of victory may not have been possible if Marbury’s belongings were hanging in a Celtics locker.

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Three’s Company

02.06.09 at 8:13 pm ET
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NEW YORK – The New York Knicks have not held anything back from behind the arc against the Boston Celtics this season. In their first three match ups, the Knicks attempted 80 three-point shots, 22 more than the Celtics. On Friday night the Celtics were ready to counter the offensive assault.

Before the game Glen Davis extended his warm ups to the three-point line. Big Baby knocked down three consecutive shots from the top of the arc. Moments later, Ray Allen took target practice from the bench. In a close competition with Celtics assistant coach Mike Longabardi, Allen took shot after shot frim his seat. And not to be outdone, Leon Powe drained a three from the sidelines in front of a surprised Patrick O’Bryant.

The Celtics knew what they were in for. At the end of the first quarter alone, the Knicks had shot 4-for-10 from long range.

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Sounds of the game… Lakers 110, Celtics 109 OT

02.06.09 at 6:49 am ET
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Forget the NBA Finals of last June. Thursday night’s regular season game between the Celtics and Lakers at TD Banknorth Garden went a long way to restoring one of the sport’s great all-time rivalries.

And just listening to Doc Rivers’ verbal tirade to the referees in the hallway proves how much this one hurt for the Green.

Rivers COULD NOT believe a hand check was not called on the Lakers as they tried to throw Ray Allen’s timing off at the end of overtime with Allen having the ball and a chance to win the game just like he did 48 hours earlier in Philadelphia.

“That was a hand check!” Rivers exclaimed in the hallway as the Celtics filed to their locker room, past the officials’ room on the right.

Then there was the sparring between Kobe Bryant and Rajon Rondo, as Bryant, who was held to 26 points on 10-of-29 shooting, waved his finger in Rondo’s face in the third quarter. That was followed minutes later by Lamar Odom and Kevin Garnett going toe-to-toe before calmer heads prevailed. And lest we forget the rivalry between the two coaches.

Phil Jackson was peeved when Doc Rivers was given a sports-drink shower on the court in the closing minutes of Game 6 of The Finals last June. Jackson said after the game that he didn’t think Garnett looked like he was ready to return from the flu. Oh really Phil?

This game meant a lot to both teams.

It meant the end of Boston’s 12-game winning streak, meaning the Lakers have ended their 19-game AND 12-game runs this season. It meant that Los Angeles has swept the season series and holds the tie-breaker should the two teams end up deadlocked at the end of the season.

For the Lakers, it meant beating  a team that seven months earlier humiliated them on the same court by 39 points in the most embarrassing loss in franchise history. They remembered the Gatorade shower that Rivers received from Pierce and Co. as Boston claimed its 17th title.

And it showed that these Lakers, even without big man Andrew Bynum, COULD play defense when it mattered and they won’t be pushed around anymore.

Here’s how both teams articulated it.

Paul Pierce said it was just one game and hopefully they’ll meet again.

Eddie House thought the Lakers celebrated like they just won the title. Yo LA, this was game 51, regular season, that is.

House thought the Lakers were allowed to be more physical than the Celtics.

Ray Allen was more disappointed that Kevin Garnett was called for a cheap foul that gave him five late, just before fouling out in the fourth.

Doc Rivers felt that was a hand check on Allen at the end.

Rivers was worried early in the second half about how the game was getting away from the officials.

Rivers thought it was a chippy game.

Lakers coach Phil Jackson thought it was a great game for the NBA.

Jackson didn’t think Garnett was ready to play after missing the last two games with the flu.

Kobe Bryant thought it WAS a statement game for his Lakers.

Pau Gasol wished the Lakers had played like this last year in The Finals.

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Is this really just another game?

02.06.09 at 12:35 am ET
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No one on the Los Angeles Lakers is more outspoken about his feelings toward the Boston Celtics than Sasha Vujacic. Make no mistake, he is not over last season’s loss in the NBA Finals. Less than a year later, the emotional wound is still very open.

“I wouldn’t say it’s hatred,” Vujacic said before the Lakers overtime win against the Celtics (RECAP HERE). “It’s just hard when you lose in the Finals to forget about it and say life goes on. It doesn’t go on. I’m always going to be kind of scarred.”

Kind of scarred? Vujacic won’t even wear green — “I’ve seen too much green in June” — but he doesn’t think these sentiments are over the top. Any player who claims it’s just another game, he attests, isn’t being honest.

“I think that if you go in the Celtics locker room and you ask them about us, they’re going to have the same opinion. The only difference is they have a championship ring and they have a trophy at home,” he said. “I would say that for both teams, no matter what they say or no matter what people think, it will never, ever be ‘just another game’ against the Celtics or against the Lakers.”

For many of the Celtics, this wasn’t just another game. As Ray Allen explained, the Celtics were the hunted against a Lakers team looking for revenge. The Cs knew the Lakers were going to attack with a Game Seven mentality and they wanted to match that energy.

“We approach it as an intense playoff atmosphere,” Allen said. “We definitely don’t take it lightly. It’s a very intense moment for us. We look forward to it and the focus in the locker room is pretty intense … Now we’re on the other side of the fence where we’ve got to pick it up and we’ve got to get momentum going here into the playoffs.”

Kendrick Perkins agreed.

“I thought it was very physical. I thought it was a playoff-type atmosphere game,” he said. “It wasn’t a make-or-break for the season, no doubt about it, but we wanted to win the game. You could tell, any time we go through a game like that, hard fought, you just want to get the win.”

There may have been a playoff atmosphere but that doesn’t mean this game has the ramifications of a postseason match up. Nobody won a ring, no one was sent home for the summer.

“What was it? Game 51? It was Game 51,” said Eddie House. “I think they feel like they won the Finals, the way they were celebrating out there, and it’s Game 51. I think it just meant more to them to come in here and be able to get that monkey off their back to feel like, oh they can get a win out here. So that’s behind us. I think it meant more to them but we just keep it moving.”

At the end of overtime the Celtics were the world champions while the Lakers were still seeking to take the title away. But seasons are not decided in February. Ultimately, it is just another game in the grand scheme of the regular season. Even Vujacic, open wound and all, isn’t celebrating just yet.

“We don’t celebrate,” he said after the game. “We celebrate in June.”

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The Edge Goes to L.A.

02.06.09 at 12:34 am ET
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At some point in the last decade or so, the everlasting image of the Lakers-Celtics thing became the Kevin McHale clothesline of Kurt Rambis. It is the first image they show on the JumboTron in the pregame and whenever it does appear, the crowd responds with a familiar cry of bloodlust.

Forget Larry hitting the turnaround on Magic. Forget Henderson stealing the ball. Forget Don Nelson’s jumper bouncing high off the rim. Forget Russell winning one last time while Wilt stewed on the bench. This is what we think about when we think Lakers-Celtics: Rambis going up for a layup and McHale decking him.

Legend has it that Pat Riley decided after that series that no team of his would ever get knocked around like that again, and thus gave the world Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley and the rest of the aesthetically unpleasing Knicks of the early 90′s.

The underlying message in all of this is has always been: Boston tough. L.A. soft.

Pau Gasol? Soft.

Lamar Odom? Flaky. Also, soft.

Kobe Bryant? Not soft, but when your two-guard is your hardest player you’ve got problems. Michael Jordan had Oakley and then Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman, after all.

When the Lakers lost the final game of last season by 39 points, that only intensified the feeling that the Celtics were the grittier, tougher, shove-you-first (and last) team.

Thursday night’s game was anything but timid. (Click here for a recap.) The shoulders were set harder on high screens. The elbows were flying away from the play. There were double technicals and stare downs and even one bizarre sequence where Odom smacked Kevin Garnett in the back and then seemed to temporarily lose his mind over K.G.’s penchant for swatting away shots after the whistle.

“It was a physical game, but you have to come to expect that,” Paul Pierce said. “All those things said about the Lakers not being a physical team, you just have to expect that they’re gonna come around and hold their chests up high.”

The nature of play did not sit well with Doc Rivers.

“In the third and fourth quarters, I thought the game got out of control,” Rivers said. “I really did. And I thought the officials let it get out of control. I just thought there was a lot of chippiness. We were the retaliators a lot tonight, and we got caught. Obviously. Both teams. I thought it was a chippy game in the second half and it didn’t need to be.”

Between quarters Rivers was in the ear of the officials–Monty McCutchen, James Capers and Leon Wood–yelling about the loose elbows that were swinging around.

Here’s the thing though. The Lakers took those shots, and they didn’t flinch. Kobe, we know about. Say what you will about Kobe Bean Bryant but he does not back down from a street fight. Time and again he lined up deep 3-pointers with Pierce draped all over him and he knocked them down, which only adds to his image as the NBA’s most cold-blooded player.

But Gasol, forever derided as being Teddy Ruxpin soft, scored 24 points and had 14 rebounds and it wasn’t like he was shooting 20-foot jumpers either.

“Gasol was the star of the game,” Rivers said. “He got it deep, he got hook shots, fadeaways.”

If the Celtics had a mental edge over the Lakers, it’s gone now. The Lakers have talked (and talked) about the way last year ended for them, getting humiliated on the Garden floor. They’ve talked about it so much that you couldn’t help but wonder if this would become one of those self-fulfilling prophesies where the ending was written before the scenario even took place. That’s gone now.

“It was important for us,” Bryant said, acknowledging the obvious. “I think the growth that we had from last year to this year, when they went on those 8-0 runs we kept our poise. Last year, 8-0 runs turned into a 15-2 run. That is something that we couldn’t weather and I think we’ve grown tremendously in our execution and our poise.”

The Celtics all said that this was just another game in the 82-game schedule. They learned from the last time the Lakers snapped one of their winning streaks that they can handle the aftershocks. One tends to believe them when they say that because they backed it up by ripping off 12 straight wins.

But there was a weird moment at the end of the post-game press conference where Garnett, whose mind had been wandering (understandably since he has been laid up for the better part of the past week) snapped back to the here and now. The question was about whether the Celtics wanted to see the Lakers again in the Finals.

“Hell yeah,” he said fixing his glare on the questioner for a good five seconds. “We’re the champs, right?”

They are the champs and are entitled to all the benefits that distinction holds, and in a seven-game series they’d still be the choice. But they know. The dynamic has shifted.

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