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Irish Coffee: Is Kobe Bryant a winner or whiner? 11.24.10 at 11:19 am ET
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Wake up with the Celtics and your daily dose of Irish Coffee …

All Kobe Bryant has ever cared about is team-building, winning and  championships.

Wait, what?

In an interview with Yahoo! Sports columnist Adrian Wojarowski, Los Angeles Lakers legend Kobe Bryant waxes poetically about his drive for success and what he learned from two of the greatest basketball minds ever: Bill Russell and … Michael Jackson?

After reading the story, dry heaving several times and doing a little research, I want to make one thing clear: When he has good teammates and is winning, all Kobe Bryant has ever cared about is team-building, winning and  championships.

Let’s take a look at a few of Bryant’s quotes from Wojnarowski’s piece …

“It sounds weird, I guess, but it’s true: I was really mentored by the preparation of Michael Jackson. … That’s the mentality that I have – it’s not an athletic one. It’s not from Michael Jordan. It’s not from other athletes. It’s from Michael Jackson.”

One question from that nugget: Is Kobe the first young mind ever to be proud of being “mentored” by Michael Jackson? Too soon?

“Guys have voices now, want to build brands,” Bryant said. “I don’t identify with it, but I understand where it’s going, why it’s going there. That’s not for me.”

On the same day the interview was published, a story that Nike-sponsored Kobe is going to wear special “Grinch” style green shoes against the Miami Heat on Christmas day. But, you know, Bryant would never want to build a brand or anything.

“I focus on one thing and one thing only – that’s trying to win as many championships as I can.”

Let’s not forget Bryant’s thirst for winning from 2004-07, during which time he wanted to be traded, shot roughly 15,000 shots per game and won 34, 45 and 42 games. Kobe has never won more than 45 games without Shaquille O’Neal or Pau Gasol, who have been the most dominant centers in the league during their respective tenures alongside Bryant.

Meanwhile, Paul Pierce‘s 2001-02 Boston Celtics won 49 games with Tony Battie at center, Kevin Garnett‘s 2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves won 58 games with a Ervin Johnson/Michael Olowakandi combination at center, and Ray Allen’s 2004-05 Seattle SuperSonics won 52 games with Jerome James at center.

Now, I’m in no way arguing that any of those three guys are better than Kobe. Bryant is one of the top five guards ever to play the game. But this notion that he has always been “all about winning” is absurd. He’s only all about winning when he’s winning.

Speaking of the C’s, here’s what Bryant had to say about the Celtics-Lakers rivalry …

“Now that’s a war. Boston is a great city to go to, all the history. If you’re an opponent, they hate your [expletive] guts – like New York, like Chicago, all those Eastern cities. That’s the one that gets me excited. If you’re a basketball purist, that’s the [expletive] you want to see.”

Well, at least Kobe’s right about one thing.

Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant, right, talks to Cleveland Cavaliers' Shaquille O'Neal during the first half of an NBA basketball game in Los Angeles,  Friday, Dec. 25, 2009.

How much has Kobe Bryant (right) benefited from Shaquille O'Neal (left) and Pau Gasol? (AP)

A CELTICS THANKSGIVING FEAST

Well, Thanksgiving is almost upon us, so the obligatory Turkey Day sports stories are popping up all over the place. ESPN.com caught up with a bunch of Boston athletes to ask them what they like most about Thanksgiving? Here are the answers from Celtics players …

  • Shaquille O’Neal: “Lucille’s [his mom's] fried chicken and macaroni and cheese. My favorite part of Thanksgiving is eating!”
  • Glen Davis: “Macaroni and cheese, but I most look forward to cutting the turkey. I’m the one who carves the turkey, and I think I do a good job.”
  • Nate Robinson: “My favorite Thanksgiving food is turkey, ham … you’ve got to do both. Turkey, ham, dressing with maple corn bread is real good, what else? Yams and macaroni and cheese. I like having all my family being together and having a good time, and then there is always football on that day. We all watch football.”
  • Kendrick Perkins: “I love, love, love turkey, baked turkey actually. I love the football games that are on, being able to play cards and games and stuff like that with the family at the house. I think Thanksgiving to me is one of the most underrated holidays. Everybody looks forward to Christmas, but I think Thanksgiving is more like where you wake up to the food, just the smell of the house and stuff like that is all just warming and stuff, so that’s what I look forward to.”

Honestly, my family has never had mac and cheese for Thanksgiving, but it sounds amazing. Then again, maybe I’d just end up weighing as much as Shaq and Big Baby. In my 6-foot-1 frame, that wouldn’t be pretty.

IS JERMAINE O’NEAL OVERPAID?

On average, NBA teams pay roughly $1.7 million per victory. Based on who got paid the most to produce the least amount of wins, Forbes Magazine determined the most overpaid players of the 2009-10 season. No. 2 on the list? Jermaine O’Neal.

That shouldn’t worry Celtics fans too much, as he was making $23 million when he statistically produced a whopping 3.1 wins last season. His true value, according to Forbest, was $5.3 million, and the C’s signed him to a $5.7 million deal in the offseason.

Still, it’s looking as though he could actually be worse than 2009-10, when he averaged 13.5 points and seven rebounds in 28 minutes per game.

By the way, the Orlando Magic’s Rashard Lewis was the most overpaid player in the league last year, collecting $18.9 million for 14.1 points and 1.5 assists in 32.9 minutes per game. This year, Lewis is worse, averaging just 11.6 points and 1.2 assists in 31.8 minutes per.

CELTICS PLAYING THE SIMS GAME?

According to NBA Fan House, The Celtics’ NBA Development League affiliate, the Maine Red Claws, signed former University of Michigan forward DeShawn Sims to replace the injured Stephane Lasme.

Sims played for the C’s in the Orlando Pro Summer League over the summer and will join Celtics training camp invitees Jamar Smith, Mario West and Tiny Gallon on the Red Claws’ roster. The 6-foot-8, 235-pound Sims averaged 16.8 points and 7.6 rebounds per game for the Wolverines as a senior, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. …

Well, that’s it for today, folks. Have a Happy Thanksgiving and try to catch a high school football game. Go Barnstable Red Raiders. Beat Falmouth.

(Have a question, concern or conception for tomorrow’s Irish Coffee? Send a message to @brohrbach on Twitter.)

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  • Kouf

    Pau Gasol has never been the most dominant center in the league. He only plays center part-time as well. Did you forget about Dwight Howard or even part-time center Tim Duncan?

    Most of the players he was with from 04-07 aren’t even in the league anymore. That situation was hopeless no matter how Kobe approached the game.

  • nba

    Pau Gasol has never been a Center thats for sure.

    But Dwight is too soft to be dominant, hell Gasol is better than Dwight in that sense.
    Tim Duncan is a PF/C so not most dominant, but smartest of that position.

  • LA lakers best

    In 04-07 the only player left in the lakers was kobe they had a new team compare it to the situation at miami they have a new team with lebron,wade, and bosh all the skill but yet they have a 8-6 record……. It was the same except they only had kobe.

  • Conoro

    The echelon of ignorance that you’ve reached in the first portion of your article ,regarding Bryant, is astounding. Try harder next time by adding some actual critical analysis if you are, in fact, going to critique somebody.

    Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, young Sasha Vujacic, Shammond Williams, Jumaine Jones, Joe Jackson, Chris Mihm, young Jordan Farmar… the list is pathetic. Bryant had Lamar Odom and a slightly above-average Luke Walton (prior to his injury) whilst needing to score between 28 and 35ppg to remain competitive in the WEST (although you altered that to fit your supposed “critique”).

    As for your Paul Pierce assertion… firstly, he played in the East. Secondly, he played with a pre-utter fatass/All-Star in Antoine Walker.

    Ben Rohrbach, now known as the king of “journalistic” trolls.

  • Nesz

    Please be fair when making analysis. I doubt if you are really a basketball analyst or a Kobe hater.

  • http://cnnsi.com Objective Laker Fan

    This is so typical. After a threepeat, Kobe was frustrated when they had bad years and was not patient while the Lakers were rebuilding. They rebuilt for 2.5 years. That’s it. Everyone in the NBA had a shot @ Gasol before the Lakers and no one wanted his salary. Boston won in 2008 when the Lakers started Vladimir Radmonovic and Bynum was out and Doc days no one has beaten Boston’s starting five. Your team is good. They are a contender. There is no need to find crap to talk about Kobe. Keep your mouth shut, go back to the finals, and try and beat them. In the meantime, don’t criticize Kobe while Garnett calls other players cancer survivors, or your backup point guard carries an arsenal in a guitar case on his big wheel.

  • megan smith

    You can tell it is a holiday only the uniformed are writing today.

  • Matt

    Not quite the responses this dolt of an author was expecting I’m sure. Let’s get a real writer in here one time.

  • Jim P.

    To Objective Laker, I guess you can love a rapist. He only got off because of his fame and notoriety. Of course you don’t believe the victim unless there is a witness. Well most rapes occur when two people are alone, not when there is another person there. Of course, because of his fame, nobody wants to believe someone who’s admired like he is would do such a thing. The only thing that matters is that he is a rapist and that will always be true. Remember, O.J. was acquitted even though when they had the best evidence, DNA. People just can’t blame their star can do no wrong.

  • http://www.fortwilliam.co.uk Francina Cotter

    If desired you could be posting on good recreation in Aonach Mor such as the ones covered on the Lochaber blog?

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