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Irish Coffee: Is Kobe Bryant a winner or whiner?

Posted By Ben Rohrbach On November 24, 2010 @ 11:19 am In General | 10 Comments

Wake up with the Celtics [1] and your daily dose of Irish Coffee ‘€¦

All Kobe Bryant [2] has ever cared about is team-building, winning and  championships.

Wait, what?

In an interview [3] with Yahoo! Sports columnist Adrian Wojarowski, Los Angeles Lakers [4] legend Kobe Bryant waxes poetically about his drive for success and what he learned from two of the greatest basketball minds ever: Bill Russell [5] and … Michael Jackson [6]?

After reading the story, dry heaving several times and doing a little research, I want to make one thing clear: When he has good teammates and is winning, all Kobe Bryant has ever cared about is team-building, winning and  championships.

Let’s take a look at a few of Bryant’s quotes from Wojnarowski’s piece …

“It sounds weird, I guess, but it’€™s true: I was really mentored by the preparation of Michael Jackson. … That’€™s the mentality that I have – it’€™s not an athletic one. It’€™s not from Michael Jordan [7]. It’€™s not from other athletes. It’€™s from Michael Jackson.”

One question from that nugget: Is Kobe the first young mind ever to be proud of being “mentored” by Michael Jackson? Too soon?

“Guys have voices now, want to build brands,” Bryant said. “I don’t identify with it, but I understand where it’€™s going, why it’s going there. That’s not for me.”

On the same day the interview was published, a story that Nike-sponsored Kobe is going to wear special “Grinch” style green shoes against the Miami Heat [8] on Christmas day. But, you know, Bryant would never want to build a brand or anything.

“I focus on one thing and one thing only – that’s trying to win as many championships as I can.”

Let’s not forget Bryant’s thirst for winning from 2004-07, during which time he wanted to be traded, shot roughly 15,000 shots per game and won 34, 45 and 42 games. Kobe has never won more than 45 games without Shaquille O’Neal [9] or Pau Gasol [10], who have been the most dominant centers in the league during their respective tenures alongside Bryant.

Meanwhile, Paul Pierce [11]‘s 2001-02 Boston Celtics won 49 games with Tony Battie at center, Kevin Garnett [12]‘s 2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves [13] won 58 games with a Ervin Johnson/Michael Olowakandi combination at center, and Ray Allen’s 2004-05 Seattle SuperSonics [14] won 52 games with Jerome James at center.

Now, I’m in no way arguing that any of those three guys are better than Kobe. Bryant is one of the top five guards ever to play the game. But this notion that he has always been “all about winning” is absurd. He’s only all about winning when he’s winning.

Speaking of the C’s, here’s what Bryant had to say about the Celtics-Lakers rivalry …

“Now that’€™s a war. Boston is a great city to go to, all the history. If you’re an opponent, they hate your [expletive] guts – like New York, like Chicago, all those Eastern cities. That’€™s the one that gets me excited. If you’€™re a basketball purist, that’€™s the [expletive] you want to see.”

Well, at least Kobe’s right about one thing.

A CELTICS THANKSGIVING FEAST

Well, Thanksgiving is almost upon us, so the obligatory Turkey Day sports stories are popping up all over the place. ESPN.com caught up with [15] a bunch of Boston athletes to ask them what they like most about Thanksgiving? Here are the answers from Celtics players …

  • Shaquille O’Neal: “Lucille’s [his mom's] fried chicken and macaroni and cheese. My favorite part of Thanksgiving is eating!”
  • Glen Davis [16]: “Macaroni and cheese, but I most look forward to cutting the turkey. I’m the one who carves the turkey, and I think I do a good job.”
  • Nate Robinson [17]: “My favorite Thanksgiving food is turkey, ham ‘€¦ you’ve got to do both. Turkey, ham, dressing with maple corn bread is real good, what else? Yams and macaroni and cheese. I like having all my family being together and having a good time, and then there is always football on that day. We all watch football.”
  • Kendrick Perkins [18]: “I love, love, love turkey, baked turkey actually. I love the football games that are on, being able to play cards and games and stuff like that with the family at the house. I think Thanksgiving to me is one of the most underrated holidays. Everybody looks forward to Christmas, but I think Thanksgiving is more like where you wake up to the food, just the smell of the house and stuff like that is all just warming and stuff, so that’s what I look forward to.”

Honestly, my family has never had mac and cheese for Thanksgiving, but it sounds amazing. Then again, maybe I’d just end up weighing as much as Shaq and Big Baby. In my 6-foot-1 frame, that wouldn’t be pretty.

IS JERMAINE O’NEAL [19] OVERPAID?

On average, NBA teams pay roughly $1.7 million per victory. Based on who got paid the most to produce the least amount of wins, Forbes Magazine determined [20] the most overpaid players of the 2009-10 season. No. 2 on the list? Jermaine O’Neal.

That shouldn’t worry Celtics fans too much, as he was making $23 million when he statistically produced a whopping 3.1 wins last season. His true value, according to Forbest, was $5.3 million, and the C’s signed him to a $5.7 million deal in the offseason.

Still, it’s looking as though he could actually be worse than 2009-10, when he averaged 13.5 points and seven rebounds in 28 minutes per game.

By the way, the Orlando Magic’s Rashard Lewis was the most overpaid player in the league last year, collecting $18.9 million for 14.1 points and 1.5 assists in 32.9 minutes per game. This year, Lewis is worse, averaging just 11.6 points and 1.2 assists in 31.8 minutes per.

CELTICS PLAYING THE SIMS GAME?

According to NBA Fan House, The Celtics’ NBA Development League affiliate, the Maine Red Claws, signed [21] former University of Michigan forward DeShawn Sims to replace the injured Stephane Lasme.

Sims played for the C’s in the Orlando Pro Summer League over the summer and will join Celtics training camp invitees Jamar Smith, Mario West and Tiny Gallon on the Red Claws’ roster. The 6-foot-8, 235-pound Sims averaged 16.8 points and 7.6 rebounds per game for the Wolverines as a senior, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. …

Well, that’s it for today, folks. Have a Happy Thanksgiving and try to catch a high school football game. Go Barnstable Red Raiders. Beat Falmouth.

(Have a question, concern or conception for tomorrow’€™s Irish Coffee? Send a message to @brohrbach [22] on Twitter.)


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URLs in this post:

[1] Celtics: http://media.weei.com/basketball/boston-celtics.htm

[2] Kobe Bryant: http://media.weei.com/basketball/kobe-bryant.htm

[3] an interview: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Apy6Dkjs2jaj79Yzv9KD.n05nYcB?slug=aw-kobebryantchat112310

[4] Los Angeles Lakers: http://media.weei.com/basketball/los-angeles-lakers.htm

[5] Bill Russell: http://media.weei.com/basketball/bill-russell.htm

[6] Michael Jackson: http://media.weei.com/celebrities/michael-jackson.htm

[7] Michael Jordan: http://media.weei.com/basketball/michael-jordan.htm

[8] Miami Heat: http://media.weei.com/basketball/miami-heat.htm

[9] Shaquille O’Neal: http://media.weei.com/basketball/shaquille-oneal.htm

[10] Pau Gasol: http://media.weei.com/basketball/pau-gasol.htm

[11] Paul Pierce: http://media.weei.com/basketball/paul-pierce.htm

[12] Kevin Garnett: http://media.weei.com/basketball/kevin-garnett.htm

[13] Minnesota Timberwolves: http://media.weei.com/basketball/minnesota-timberwolves.htm

[14] Seattle SuperSonics: http://media.weei.com/basketball/oklahoma-city-thunder.htm

[15] caught up with: http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/news/story?id=5844120

[16] Glen Davis: http://media.weei.com/basketball/glen-davis.htm

[17] Nate Robinson: http://media.weei.com/basketball/nate-robinson.htm

[18] Kendrick Perkins: http://media.weei.com/basketball/kendrick-perkins.htm

[19] JERMAINE O’NEAL: http://media.weei.com/basketball/jermaine-oneal.htm

[20] determined: http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/23/nba-most-overpaid-players-business-sportsmoney-overpaid_slide.html

[21] signed: http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/11/23/trio-of-call-up-candidates-land-with-new-d-league-teams/

[22] @brohrbach: http://twitter.com/brohrbach

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