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First things first: Examining the Celtics roster for 2011-12 05.13.11 at 6:04 pm ET
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The first item of business for Celtics president Danny Ainge was locking up coach Doc Rivers to a long-term contract, which they agreed upon Friday for five years. With Rivers on board for more than just a last run with the big three, the Celtics will enter an offseason where they are looking at the long-term, while also trying to stay contenders for next season.

The real overhaul is likely to begin after the 2012 season when Kevin Garnett‘s contract comes off the books and a new collective bargaining agreement is in place. The 2012 free agency class in also much stronger than this summer’s crop with Dwight Howard expected to be the main prize.

Building around the core for one more shot at a championship is really the only option for Ainge unless he is willing to trade one of his aging stars. In an end of the season meeting with the media, Ainge said that he always considers all options. Still, it would be a surprise.

Assuming Ray Allen picks up his player option, which he said he intends to do, the Celtics will have over $64 million committed to six players. That would put them over the salary cap under the current rules and while they are likely to be altered under a new CBA, the cap number is not likely to go up from its current $58 million.

“I know this about the big three: they still have a lot of basketball in them,” Ainge said. “How much can they carry a team, [and be] 20-point a game scorers, I don’t know. I do know they’re still very talented but we need to add talent around them.”

It’s important to note that no one knows what the new salary cap rules will look like under a new CBA. Therefore it’s impossible to predict what kind of moves Ainge will be able to make this offseason. Under the existing rules, Ainge would be able to go over the cap to re-sign his own players and offer free agents from other teams money from the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions, as well as the veterans minimum.

Before we get to a new CBA — and free agency — here’s a look at the current roster, with comments from Ainge.

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT: Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O’Neal, Avery Bradley

Rondo: The All-Star point guard just finished the first year of a five-year extension. As he is no longer a base-year compensation player Rondo could be available in a trade, but Ainge said on WEEI’s The Big Show that he’s not looking to deal Rondo.

Ainge said that Rondo’s dislocated left elbow will not require surgery. He also recounted this tale from the locker room after Rondo hurt himself after he became tangled up with Dwyane Wade in Game 3 of the Celtics series with Miami.

“He was in an amazing amount of pain,” Ainge said. “He was trying to get back on the court now. He didn’t want to ice it. He didn’t want the X-ray. He said pop it back, tape it up, let’s go.”

Rivers decision to return for the long-term binds him and Rondo together through the inevitable transition period. How Rondo grows and develops as a player and a leader will be the key for the next Celtics era.

Pierce: Much was made of Ainge’s comment on The Big Show that Jeff Green could start ahead of Pierce. Ainge backed off that on Friday.

“I said that on the radio show yesterday to get everybody excited,” Ainge said. “I’m sure I’ll be hearing from Paul. I don’t know, that will be Doc’s decision. Jeff playing a bigger role if he comes back, I think that will be the case. I have no idea [how that will work], maybe he’ll start in place of Ray. Now I’ll be hearing from Ray. There’s some things that can be tweaked. That’s my whole point.”

Here’s the real takeaway from those comments. The Celtics never planned on having Pierce and Allen play 36 minutes a night for 80 games this season. That they were able to at this stage of their careers, is an immense compliment to their conditioning and competitiveness. The flipside of that is they had to play that many minutes because the Celtics bench was in a constant state of flux given injuries to players like Delonte West, Marquis Daniels and even Von Wafer.

“I think that’s an unreasonable expectation to expect them to play the minutes they played this year,” Aineg said. “That was not in our plans at all this year for them to play as many games as they did and as many minutes as they did. Unfortunately we had injuries to everybody else. It was amazing that those guys were the most durable. I think our plan going into next year will be less games, less minutes.”

Pierce had his best season since 2007-08 and stayed injury-free in the process. He’s signed for another two seasons with an option for a third. It may not be realistic to expect Pierce to duplicate his post-prime success in the future, but he will need to continue playing at a reasonably high level if the Celtics can remain contenders.

Garnett: In many ways this was an inspiring comeback season for Garnett who returned to elite levels as a defensive rebounder and defender, while missing only nine games due to injury. Unfortunately for Garnett, the postseason left a terrible aftertaste. He performed brilliantly in Game 3 against Miami, but couldn’t duplicate his offensive success in the next two games.

“I saw a guy that played great defense in our series and is the catalyst and the leader of our defense,” Ainge said. “I thought he was unbelievable in Game 3 and then Game 4 and Game 5 he wasn’t the same offensively. That’s going to happen. KG is not expected to have to carry us. It would be nice if he scored 28 points every night but we just don’t expect that out of KG.”

Rivers has kept Garnett on a strict minutes limit during the regular season. Expect more of the same next season, and it wouldn’t be a bad idea if he emulated Spurs coach Gregg Popovich‘s approach to Tim Duncan, which includes sitting him out for one game on back-to-backs and maybe even keeping him out of practices.

Garnett has one year left on his contract, which will pay him over $21 million. Once his deal is up, the real overhaul will begin.

Jermaine O’Neal: Considering what he was able to do in the playoffs, the Celtics would love to have O’Neal back for the final year of his two-year contract. Yes, the pendulum has swung that far after O’Neal was able to play in only 24 regular season games.

Ainge said O’Neal will need surgery on his left wrist, which he fractured in Game 1 of the New York series while he was taking a charge. The injury affected his ability to finish inside, but he still had his moments in the playoffs, both offensively and defensively.

O’Neal said after the Celtics were eliminated that he would take some time before deciding whether to return. He also noted that a potential lockout could change his plans if it drags well into next season. The early guess is that he will come back and if he can give the Celtics 20-25 minutes and 60 games, it would be a big help.

Bradley: It wasn’t a total wasted year for the rookie who now has a season of professional basketball under his belt and who also performed well during a stint in the D-League. The Celtics love his potential and now he needs to take a positive step this summer in his development. “I’m looking for Avery to make some good improvement this summer and come into training camp ready to win a job,” Ainge said.

The Celtics need to get younger and more athletic and Bradley will have every opportunity to carve out a reserve role.

PLAYER OPTIONS: Ray Allen, Shaquille O’Neal

Allen: The sharpshooting guard said after Game 5 that he intends to remain with the Celtics. Assuming he picks up his option, there may not be a better veteran bargain for $10 million. As with Pierce, the Celtics may look to manage his minutes during the regular season. Look for this area to be addressed in free agency. The Celtics never did have a reliable backup behind Allen this season and they had no one who could duplicate his 3-point shooting off the bench.

Shaquille O’Neal: It’s very likely that we have seen the last of Shaq who simply couldn’t come back from an Achilles injury that kept him out for all but 17 minutes after February 1. Ainge acknowledged that the team believed Shaq was coming back before he made the Kendrick Perkins trade.

“Shaq brought us our best offense that we’ve had in four years when he was healthy and playing well,” Ainge said. “We had every indication from Shaq, from doctors and trainers that Shaq would be healthy and should have no issues by the trade deadline. That changed. Maybe we should have taken his age into more consideration.”

Shaq does have an option to return for the veterans minimum and no one should ever say never in this league, but his return looks doubtful.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENT: Jeff Green

Ainge said that he wants to retain Green and that he believed Green will play better with a full training camp and a larger role next season.

“I think Jeff played excellent,” Ainge said. “Maybe the expectations were too high. We knew he wasn’t going to start. We knew he wasn’t going to play 35 minutes. We needed a veteran player, an experienced player, an athletic player. We know what Jeff Green is. He’s a highly efficient offensive player who plays good defense. That’s what we need and he’s young and I think he’s just going to get better because of his character and work ethic.”

It’s clear that Ainge considers Green an important part of both the future and the present. They were never able to give him a clearly defined role and playing behind Pierce, Garnett and Allen, it’s still unclear how they intend to do that. If Ainge is right about Green, he may hold the key to next season.

FREE AGENTS: Glen Davis, Delonte West, Nenad Krstic, Von Wafer, Troy Murphy, Carlos Arroyo, Sasha Pavlovic

Davis: At one point this season, Davis’ future seemed secure. He was enjoying the best season of his career and was mentioned a legitimate sixth man of the year candidate. Then he went into a terrible slump at the end of the regular season that carried over into the playoffs and left him asking about himself in the third person.

“We like Glen,” Ainge said. “We didn’t look at this last month where he didn’t play as well as he was capable of playing, but we have to look at the whole package of what Glen has given to us a player. I think there’s a lot of mistakes made on players who play well in a playoff series and players who play poorly in a playoff series. I’ve seen a lot of teams make mistakes made over the years based on that kind of performance. We’ll take his whole  career under consideration as we determine what short of price he’ll demand and that he will definitely look at the market and see what’s out there for him.”

There’s no question that Davis tried Rivers’ patience as well as his teammates during the playoffs. That doesn’t preclude him coming back at the right price, in the right deal. The Celtics need talent and for all his maddening inconsistency, Davis does have talent. If some team swoops in and offers a big-money deal and the chance to start, he would probably be gone.

The Celtics let the market come back to them when Davis was a restricted free agent after the 2009 season and that’s likely to be the same scenario this time around.

West: It’s not a foregone conclusion that West will return next season (see: Tony Allen), but assuming the two sides can work out a deal, it seems likely. West has never been able to avoid injuries during his career, but last season reached almost absurd levels between a broken wrist, a fractured bone in his foot and a shoulder injury.

The Celtics know what they have in West: a tough, tenacious competitor who will play any role that’s asked of him. Re-signing him should be a priority, not an afterthought.

Krstic: Ainge had a quick, “Yes,” lined up when he was asked about bringing Krstic back and it makes sense. There simply aren’t that many 7-footers with offensive skills and his level of experience available on the free agent market. Ainge said that Krstic was finally healthy after a pair of knee injuries for the Miami series and pointed to his Game 5 performance when he scored eight points in 16 minutes.

A center combination of Jermaine O’Neal and Krstic along with another big body obtained in free agency wouldn’t be the worst way to fill the position. If Krstic does leave, that would open another roster hole with limited resources to fill it.

The rest: Of the four remaining free agents, Wafer and Arroyo probably have the best chance to return in that order. That will depend on what they do in the draft (they have the 25th selection in the first round) and in free agency. None are considered high priorities.

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  • Richard

    Rondo and a draft pick for Deron or Paul. Then Jeff Green for J.R. Smith. Then use mid-level to sign a center. Resign Delonte, Krstic, maybe even Murphy and Wafer. We’re back.

  • Richard

    or baby for JR… something like that…

  • tbs

    KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce will be another year older and a step slower in a league that’s already emphasizing speed and quickness.

    With one championship in the last 25 years, maybe the Celtics just have to admit that they’re a franchise with a storied past and a bleak future.

  • Viva

    @ Richard
    You must be out of your mind.

  • jfinch

    yea @richards thats notsmart at all but i think green should start allow some younger legs to run with rondo

  • boris

    @richard: that’s a good move if you are trying to make the lottery.

  • Richard

    what??? deron williams and CP3 are the best PGs in the league!!! top 3 at least. They are playmakers like Rondo but also scorers and guys who can take over games. The league has changed. You need superstars to win. More than 1. Rondo is NOT a superstar. I love his heart, but he is just a great passer. He couldn’t even beat Mike Bibby before the injury. He couldn’t even take advantage of the Lakers last year in the Finals. we need a shot at winning next year and also a shot at signing dwight howard. how is it not smart? Are you kidding me? Tell me what this team needs to do, then.

  • Richard

    if you think we can win a championship next year by keeping this core group, YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND. Rondo is a great PG, but he just isn’t a franchise player. Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston to play with Rondo, but he might come to play with Deron or CP3. We need to have this guy, or we’ll have to wait 20 years to win another championship.

    • http://Enteryourwebsite... BR

      I agree with Richard. This team needs a superstar, and Rondo is the only major trade piece we have. He also has a very cap friendly contract that teams would love. Trading him for Chris Paul keeps Paul out of the hands of the Lakers and Knicks. In addition, Paul is a far superior player to Rondo, and someone with enough cache in the league to attract talent like Dwight Howard, among others. Rondo doesn’t have that.

      Trade Rondo for Chris Paul now!

  • Viva

    @Richard
    Yeah, that’s not going to happen.

  • paul

    This …

    “Rondo hurt himself after he became tangled up with Dwyane Wade”

    … is such a wonderfully mendacious description of the deliberate Wade takedown of Rondo.

  • paul

    Man, I am ssoooooo sick of hearing about Chris Paul. We have a player in Rondo who is potentially one of the best players in the league, and all we can think about is trading him. Let’s work on his shooting. Improve his shooting and he becomes very much a franchise superstar.

    That said, I think Danny is looking to trade Rondo. Listen, if they really wanted to keep Rondo, and build around him, we’d be hearing a LOT about how Rondo needs to work on his shooting like a madman this summer. But we aren’t and obviously we won’t. They plan on dealing him.

    And if they do that, yeah, Chris Paul, I suppose.

    Basically, Danny is, in my view, just a compulsive gambler and liar. Here’s more of his mendacious musings, re. Shaq …

    “Maybe we should have taken his age into more consideration.”

    …. Really? Ya think, possibly so? What merde. We all knew that Shaq probably wouldn’t be back, and Ainge knew it better than any of us. The only reason he talked up Shaq so much was to blow smoke, so we wouldn’t be thinking “where the hell is our STARTING CENTER!!!!”

  • chris

    If the thunder lose, what better trade rondo for westbrook, sign nene, and package the Clipper lottery pick sooner and trade for a wing, Doc isn’t staying to rebuild

  • alan

    I say draft chris singletary if he is still there also try to get back marquis Daniels and Leon powe. Try to sign Chris Wilcox, Deandre Jordan either one will help Kevin Garnett.Let jermaine Oneil go as well as Glen Davis. With all these moves you should have a very good chance in post season next year Shaquille Oneil if he re hab his leg and lose about 25 pounds off his frame is still a very good player off the bench for 1 million dollars, you dont have to kill the guy with two many minutes. Jeff Green should be able to help both ray and paul with cutting down there minutes.If Avery Bradley comes I think he can definetly help cut down Rondos minutes. With all these moves I think you will be raising banner 18, go celts its all about 18.

  • http://Enteryourwebsite... EJ

    Ok. Going forward.

    There will absolutely be games lost next year. It’s a cloudy mess so no need to worry about role players.

    I think the whole concept of one last run is a good faith effort and its likely coupled with a realistic back up plan of rebuilding. And I’m sure Doc knows this. I was impressed by ‘sheed delaying his retirement papers last year in attempt to help the club. KG respects ‘sheed so much I could see him do something similar.

    You have to root for Dwight to hit the open market, and hope that Danny (he’s up, he’s down, he brought you a title from scratch, shut up) can find SHOOTERS in the draft.

    It’s a brave new world in the NBA, a lot of star power is going to disappear in the next 12 months. Danny evaluates talent well, we will be competitive. And that’s all you can control.

  • NutCracker

    @Richard: I thank the good man upstairs that you’re not the Celtics GM. I appreciate you being creative but those are the worst player options I could imagine. Keep your day job buddy.

  • bojo

    @richard is right. trading rajon rondo is the only viable option to secure a bright future for the franchise.

    I love Rajon, he is a warrior and a great player, but he is a point guard that is suited for a certain type of teams. When big three era is over Rondo’s effectivness will take a major leap, well, unless he does improve his mid range game and free throw shooting.

    Now is a time we can secure a player like dwill or cp3. Well i think Dwill is much more likely option. Plus i do prefer williams to paul, latter’s knee issue carries too much risk in my opinion.

    and as richard mentioned, having top3 point guard will have a massive imapct when it comes to dwight howard.

  • bojo

    previous post i meant to use dip instead of leap. esol.

  • paul

    Rondo’s got to work on his shooting this summer. He’s at a threshold.

  • Johnny

    Trading Rondo would be a huge mistake.

  • Matt D

    Keep Rondo, work on his shooting. He is the core of the future. If Ray Allen can’t help him, Rondo’s just not trying to learn.

    Let the Big Three start, but bring in Green, and West to limit them to three quarters a game tops. Green should even start in more than a few games. He’s got a ton of potential. Keep Krstic and JO as back-up centers. Sign Dwight Howard or as big-time a center as you can buy or draft.

    Keep Bradley, Von Wafer and BBD. I know Glen has tanked recently but when he’s in shape (2009, subbing for Garnett) he’s capable of starting on more than half the teams in the NBA. That should be good enough for the bench, but he’s got to work on his conditioning. Bradley’s also got solid potential and Von Wafer has solid enough skills for the bench. Round out via the draft and free-agency for some youth, speed and range.

    The Celtics were hurt by lack of youth and lack of healthy big men. This should address both.

  • Jim

    Since the 2011-12 Celtics are already over the cap with only 6 players signed, there is no way that the team will be competitive. To keep, KG, Ray and Paul fresh, Doc will need to keep their regular season minutes under 30 per game. That will mean the subs will need to play at a higher level for a longer period of time than the typical NBA sub does for a contender. With no money except mid level exemptions (if they have one) and veteran minimum salaries there will be no way Ainge can fill out the roster with players of sufficient quality to compete.

  • Chris

    All who watch basket and know J.Kidd, they would no that when he first came inthe league he wasnt a great shooter, but a excellent passer, and right now he is the third best three pointer shooter in NBA history, so just leave Rondo alone to grow, he will be better, plus his reall game is going to the basket, which he does as good as Rose, but he dont have to do it, because at this time he has players on the team to score. Another point i have to put out is that, if rondo was not injured in the playoffs against the heat even though we call them old guys, we would have won the last two games,there is no way Miami should have been towing with us and had to struggle to win game 4 and 5.

  • bojo

    @Chris.

    sure Rondo is as good going to the hoop as Rose or arguably any other premier PG in the league, but if he can’t hit his free throws it really negates that ability.

    If we can get Deron next season, we have a legitimate chance to win the championship.

    Package of Rondo/Davis/2012 pick will be sufficient. It gives NJ top 5 point guard, a PF they lack and a prerequisite pick.

    Love Rondo but he is not suited for non veteran team and he will be very difficult to handle on a young and rebuilding team.

  • Reality Check

    Rondo is NEVER going to be one of elite points in the league when his midrange game brings the offense to a standstill and his free throw shooting renders him unwilling to drive. Calling him one of the best players in the league is beyond stupid. One of the toughest? Yes. Best? NOT even close.

    If you can upgrade the position with Chris Paul or Deron Williams – scorers who are FAR better positioned to accept some of the scoring load as the Big 3 decline – you do it and you don’t think twice about trading Rondo.

  • Doug

    There are 3 options out there

    Number One is Deal Rondo, he’s making middle of the pack money (10,11,12, and 13 mil) and is locked up through 2014/15. However D Will and Paul respectively are making 16.3 in 2011/12 w a player option in 2012/13 for 17.8 Unfortunately that salary structure doesn’t fit with a team who have been over the cap since the beginning of the big 3 era. And now with Miami, Chicago, New York, Dallas, LA, San Antonio and all the other veteran or proven playoff teams it’s spreading out who will sign for veteran minimum or mid level. The chances of winning are now greater outside Boston.
    Number Two is blow up the big 3. With Garnett and Allen with expiring contracts and obvious years still to come in the league they would be huge moves. They both still warrant superstar caliber replacements. Thus also freeing up the cap space you would need to offer a nice deal to Dwight. The problem with that is everyone in Boston wants to see “5, 20, 34″ in the rafters.
    Three is allow this season to play out with what you get in free agency and the draft. Save your best moves for 2012 when you have a clear understanding of the CBA. Garnett, Allen, Shaq, Jermaine, Rasheed, and if Green only comes back for one year all that money is off the books. It’s only my opinion but I believe that Garnett and Allen don’t want to play anywhere else. Offer them a couple years, at short money and have them off the bench. Then make a big splash in the market. If nothing changes in 2012 the Celtics only have 27.8 million on the books and that includes picking up the option on Bradley.

    Unfortunately the Big 3 had their run. It’s all about the next move and I just can’t see how dealing your future (Rondo) makes more sense than unloading and expiring contract at big salary (Garnett).

  • AJ

    Dwight is not coming to Boston for the sole reason of his being young and enjoying the young lifestyle. There is zip to do for a young star like him. CP3/DWill arent coming either. Look RR is a great point guard. Have you forgotten him scoring in the playoffs with no KG last year, he does pretty well for a man with a sketchy jumpshot. But that can be fixed. You wont find another PG in the league that can put the ball on the money to these 3 stars like RR. Simply put, he fits this team. The problem with this years squad was the bench. The bench continued to get injured and that made the big three play bigger minutes than they should have been playing. Those guys should only log about 32 minutes per game, and have the option of sitting out on some back to backs. Those were a problem for this team as the starters played too many minutes. Green and Krstic with a full camp under their belts should really provide the scoring lift in the second unit. But backups at every position are vastly important. And BBD started out fine but fizzled at the end. This squad does need a young shotblocker/rebounder player plus a either backup PG or SG, wherever West doesnt play. In all the big three wore out because the bench wore out before they did. The aforementioned moves could keep us in contention another two seasons. We have all the stars we need. Need some good health and some good not solid bench play.

  • Pat

    The celts should trade Rondo. Sure he can get to the hoop, but he doesn’t finish consistently, can’t hit free throws, is awful at shooting the 12-15 footer and turns the ball over too much with out of control play. CP3 or Deron Williams are definite upgrades. Rondo will never be an elite pg.

  • DJ

    This is what the Boston Celtics ought to do, if they can. Go and get Baron Davies to back up Rondo, go and get Eddie House back and take a chance and find Gregg Oden and let him be the starting center. I know he is injury prone, but I think being around Kevin, Ray and Paul will help this young fellow a lot. Also it would be good for him, the Boston Celtics and the city of Boston, make it happen Danny Ainge, build that bench back up!

    Donnell
    Balto., Md. (Go Ravens and Orioles!)

  • alexander

    starting 5 for 2012/13
    pg: rondo
    sg: landry fields
    sf: pierce
    pf: jeff green
    c: dwight howard
    also the celtics should get tony allen back. rondo, allen and dwight, and the celtics would have an incredible defense. kg and ray should leave to free up salary room

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