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Irish Coffee: LeBron, Heat ‘never count Celtics out’ 04.02.12 at 2:57 pm ET
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Was Sunday’s Celtics blowout, as Chris Bosh suggested, “just a bad, sh#tty game” by his Heat, or was it a warning signal to potential playoff opponents flashed from Boston — one if by C’s, so to speak?

On their way to producing the NBA’s second-best record since the All-Star break, the Celtics have won five straight and seven of their last eight games, the most recent of which handed Miami its third loss in five contests. Over the past week, Doc Rivers & Co. have surged from the Eastern Conference’s seventh seed to within 1.5 games of Dwight Howard‘s Magic and the No. 3 slot. Count the Heat among those in the league taking notice.

“I’m going to say the same thing I said last year: We are one team and I am one guy that never counts the C’s out,” said NBA MVP favorite LeBron James. “I would never count them out. They’ve just got too many winners. They’ve got guys who have been in the moment before. Like I told you guys last year, when everyone was down on the C’s, I always said I’m not going to turn my back on those guys.”

Of course, those guys James referred to are Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen, the latter of whom missed his sixth straight game on Sunday. Didn’t matter, thanks to Avery Bradley and Brandon Bass.

“It’s because we’re a great team,” said Garnett following their 91-72 win over the Heat on national television. “Our positions and personnel, it’s all about a system. You know your role in the system. You do what you’re told in the role. You carry out your role 100 percent wholeheartedly, and that’s your contribution to the team.”

Heat superstars Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are well aware of the Celtics' championship pedigree. (AP)

That’s how the Celtics have been able to plug in players like Bradley, Bass, Greg Stiemsma, Sasha Pavlovic and Keyon Dooling, among others, and continue to build a cohesive unit.

“We have a team that is really about us and what we do, building habits and building for the playoffs,” said Dooling after Friday’s victory against the Jazz. “This team is made for the playoffs. It’s built for grind-it-out type games, and that’s usually how playoff games are, so we’re building our habits, guys are executing their roles and starting to get better.”

Remarkably, eight of the 12 players that lost the Eastern Conference semifinals in five games to the Heat last season are no longer on the C’s active roster. Only the core four remain. In other words, this is an entirely different Celtics team — one that as a result of the NBA lockout and a rash of injuries has had to learn on the fly without much practice time.

“This season has been in disarray and obviously not one that we love, but we’ve acclimated to it, man,” added Garnett. “We’ve been able to make the adjustments to it. Like I said, we’re taking it one game at a time. We’re playing hard as hell. We’re all joined by one, and we’re picking each other up where others lack. That’s what it is.”

With the exceptions of Shane Battier and Norris Cole, both upgrades off the bench who have played significant minutes from the start of this season, Miami’s rotation remains largely the same as last season. Same goes for the Bulls. Meanwhile, the Celtics have quietly patched together the NBA’s best passing team offensively (23.6 assists per game) and the league’s top defense in terms of field goal percentage allowed (opponents shooting 42.0%).

“They’ve got a good team,” said James in the aftermath of his team’s worst scoring output in two years. “No matter who’s out on the floor, when they have those guys who have been in the moment everybody else picks it up.”

Garnett’s move to center, Bradley’s evolution and the addition of Bass have made these Celtics a different dragon, trained against the Wizards and Bobcats of the world and unleashed Sunday for a nationally televised audience.

“It may give other people confidence in us, but I think our guys are a pretty confident group,” said Rivers. “They feel they can play with anyone. We also know we have to get better at a lot of things, too, while we’re doing that. We’re a team that, to me, is still trending up, and that’s a good thing.”

Sure enough, Rivers must figure out how to balance Allen’s return to the offense with Bradley’s impact on both ends, see what he can elicit from Ryan Hollins and wait for a verdict on the future of Mickael Pietrus. All could benefit the Celtics going forward, or they might be forced to go to battle with the lineup that took the floor on Sunday — a group that posted a better record in March than any unit since the 2007-08 Celtics.

“We know we can play with the best, and I think as of late we are starting to come together at this point in the season, knowing that the playoffs are right around the corner,” said Pierce. “We are starting to hit our stride at the right time, ever since the All-Star break, and now coming down the stretch we’ve won a lot of big games.”

All that said, perhaps the biggest difference between these Celtics and the team that finished the 2010-11 season is a healthy Rondo, who with two working elbows became the first player since Steve Nash seven years ago to record 10-plus assists in 13 straight games or at least 11 dimes in 11 consecutive contests.

“When we have at least four or five guys that are healthy, we follow the game plan,” said the 26-year-old point guard, “but when I’m healthy, I think we can probably beat anybody.”

First, the Celtics must finish out the remainder of the regular season, a brutal stretch beginning Wednesday of 14 games in 23 days that includes 11 games against playoff contenders, a back-to-back-back and two more meetings with Miami (April 10 and 24). In a month’s time, these C’s could look like the team that finished February with a 17-17 record and appeared bound for a first-round playoff exit, but the Heat certainly aren’t counting on that.

“Look, man, no one in this locker room counted the Celtics out,” said Battier. “You know they’re going to be there come April and May. They’re just two well coached and too disciplined, so we play them two more times, and we hope to keep improving against them.”

“We still have to play them again,” added Rondo. “It’ll be a brand new 48 minutes, so it’s one win. We’re going to take each win in stride, but other than that we’re trying to go a win at a time.”

If the C’s add up enough of those wins, they just might be headed for an Eastern Conference semifinals rematch with the Heat. Only this time it will be a different Celtics team that takes the floor.

(Have a question, concern or conception for tomorrow’s Irish Coffee? Send a message to @brohrbach on Twitter.)

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  • Bruinman86

    He could be a maintenance day for him while allowing the team to get a good look at Spooner. Not sure I’d read to far into it.

  • NYCBruinsFan

    Krejic playing a great game even though he’s still coming off that shot to the knee. Such determination to contribute.

  • disqus_56EHBIkZcr

    nice win, would’ve like to see ulf neil get a beating but 2 points is 2 points.

  • NE1935

    A win is a win. Be nice to dominate once in a while. Montreal has showed up as a real threat. Goalie great job. Go B’s.

  • Fab4ever

    At no point did they make me feel comfortable that they could win this game. That last power play was wretched..no shots..barely any offense. The guys were gassed. A win is a win. A move forward…that’s it.

    • ILoveHockey

      Not sure about fixing this PP. I would feel more comfortable if they just ran their normal lines out there- especially the Bergy line- you give Marchand and Saguin space- with that lines chemistry – goals SHOULD follow. All these different pairings coupled with the fact that they don’t draw a ton of penalties- I don’t think they are going to get it together.

      • fab4ever

        Someone in that organization has to be smarter than you and I…and I’m sure they see even more than we do…I’d like to believe that they are plotting at this very minute, a plan on how to improve the team and power play because frankly, it’s not getting done and hasn’t for 2 seasons…even in 2011, they weren’t exactly setting the NHL on fire with that power play…I keep hearing rumbles about Jagir coming to Boston…I’d welcome that trade provided they don’t have to break up the current group…he might be 41 but he’s big, he brings veteran leadership (think Mark Recchi) and he still has game, bear witness to his current stats…he’s a playmaker….what they don’t need is Morrow…he’s scrappy but they don’t need “scrappy”…

        • ILoveHockey

          I agree with you that the organization has been kept up nights with this PP- it has been longer than 2 seasons though. In the Cup year all the talk was how bad their PP was and you can’t win a cup without a decent PP.
          They have to trade for someone before the deadline, not sure I’m as optomistic as you about Jagr, with all the cap space they have right now I’d like to see them make a bigger splash- who knows who is available, and at what cost though.
          Easy for us to make moves, complaints from behind our keyboards though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Titletown1

    Khudobin pulled their bacon out of the fire (and no mention of him in the “what went right” paragraph-good job beanbag). The PP is hard to watch at this point. They get more scoring opportunities when they’re short-handed.
    Yet another three on one tonight for Krecji-Lucic-Horton and they didn’t even get a shot off…they need a goal scorer, period.

    • ILoveHockey

      I thought Bourque was the problem???????

      • Titletown1

        And new problems can’t crop up? Get real. At that time, he was a problem. The team is better by his subtraction. And at that time, the PP was horrible too. It’s been a constant all season.

        • fab4ever

          As I mentioned, again, the power play is wretched…just awful…that last effort was pitiful to watch…dump the puck in, chase it, and I use the term loosely because they had no legs, and watch the other team get to it first and slam it out of the zone..no shots, not even a sniff of a play, nothing. But again, they caught a break, they won, it’s one less game on the schedule, they keep pace, we move on.

        • ILoveHockey

          I’m just giving you a hard time because of how much attention you gave the Bourque thing, I realize this team has problems.
          One problem that I didn’t think they would have is they don’t seem to play that hard hitting, team that other teams don’t want to play style this year- my assumption is it is due to the condensed schedule. I hope in the final stretch of 5-8 games they ramp that up in prep of the playoffs, that is a huge advantage they have had over other teams in the past and they require it to be dominant

  • marchandscores

    Dobey – hell of a back up… kept us in the game. Nice to see some emotion in third. This team needs their snarl back. This could be a game to get us back on track.

    • Uncle Buck

      Good points, agreed. Nobody likes to say this and the team would never admit it, but this has been a brutal stretch in the schedule and we all knew it would be challenging. They are hanging on despite some injuries. The snarl will come back with rest, health and the big games. But as we all have said in one way or another, they need a lamp lighter.

  • ChrisinDanvers

    It was nice to see this win. It did look a little rocky early on, but the goal to end the game was solid. It was great to see this team actually have a third period that didn’t look as shaky as usual, resulted in them with a goal, and actually had some strong, physical play. Hopefully this is a step forward.

  • Shoe bottom

    The word is out on how to handle the lucic line out skate them and don’t hit Milan. With the exception of the capitols game if you basically leave lucic or Horton alone in the physical play category they simply fall asleep and loose interest which has been about every game. As for the power play I believe the merlot line has earned a chance whats to loose. Last why can’t we unleash Hamilton and let him play his style like a Chris letang, or Dustin byfuflyn. Claude and make everyone a defense first player is one dimensional. I think sea bass should step up and kick some butt.

    • ILoveHockey

      It’s a team style of play, you can’t have everyone moving in one direction, defense, and have another guy doing his own thing- that’s when you end up with chemisty problems. See Kessel!

  • Titletown1

    Just when you thought Lucic couldn’t play any worse….do you think Grabovski gave him back his jock after that second goal or is it still laying out at the blue line? Pathetic. Lucic continues to sleepwalk through games and Horton has been invisible. I can’t see them holding on to Horton much longer. Have I mentioned lately that this team needs a goal scorer?

    • fab4ever

      I’ve never read where you thought the B’s needed a goal scorer…BTW, I got a great stock deal for you…just send me the money through PayPal…

  • Troll Hunter

    How you only give up 13 shots while getting 33 yourself and still lose is beyond me. Most frustrating stretch I have seen this team go through in a long time. Horton is like an anchor on that “first” line. Needs to be sat for a couple of games.

    • fab4ever

      My brackett is a mess, the B’s sucked and what can I say about the C’s…oh, and the Sox coughed it up even though it was the minor league guys …let’s forget Saturday…

      • Troll Hunter

        Been a tough stretch for the local teams for about 10 days. Ever since Welker hit the road it seems like bad luck has been the rule for Boston teams. Bruins and Celts with injuries and tough losses and even the Pats slowing down on the good signings. Still love to see Freeney or Abraham in the fold.

      • Uncle Buck

        Agreed. Not a good Saturday at all. The Bruins are asleep at the wheel here and it is not a pretty sight.

  • fab4ever

    Houston….I mean Boston….we have a problem.

  • Bruinman86

    Talk about a flat team. The bruins look like they did last season at about this time. The question is Why???

  • mike

    All Boston Teams Suck
    Nothing but a bunch of chokers

  • Shoe bottom

    As brick would say luc and Horton lack hockey iq. Really thought Claude griswald would sit them after that second goal. Troll called it sit em or trade em times ticking

  • Chappy

    The only player on the 1st line putting in effort is Krejci (and he has one good leg) – Horton and Lucic look like PeeWees playing against Midgets….Lucic had ONE hit the ENTIRE game, Horton had NONE, are you kidding me???? Teams are focusing on the Bergeron line for good reason, I would play the Bergeron and Campbell lines as my top 2 and give the other “Bottom 6″ about 2 shifts per period Monday night…me thinks a little “Herb Brooks” practice may get their attention….AGAIN…AGAIN…AGAIN….

  • bench warmer

    Time to shake it up. Horton and Lucic for Stamkos.

    • patsfan

      not the way they are playing

  • Geetsolboy

    Two goals, both scored by defenseman. Is there a deal in the works or is management just going to ride this season out as is and address the lack of scoring capability off season?

  • wheeler

    nice game looch…another no show….you have to be trade bait.

  • BOSTONSPORTFANATIC

    MIilan Lucic deserves most of the blame. He has only 4 goals and is on the power a large amount of the time which is disgusting…One of the goals is an empty net goal so he really only has 3 real goals. He is one of the main reasons the power play has stunk the last few years. He has stone hands and can’t create his own shot skating with the puck as he is a north to south player. He is a great fighter and checker although rarely does either any more. Shawn Thorton has 3 goals, the same as Lucic and gets no power play time and much less ice-time. Danny Paille has more goals than Lucic as he has 6 goals and is on the 4th line…..The solution is get Lucic off the 1st line and put him on the 4th. He is a fat cat who doesnt hustle since he already got his big payday…

  • Xander Bogaerts

    Get it done Chia. Get him on a line with Krejci.

  • http://twitter.com/m_burke42 Burke

    Spooner/Knight/Koco/Subban/WHATEVER and a 1st rounder…..just get him in Black and Gold. If he makes it to Pittsburgh its game over for the East

    • Innovator

      Good Lord that’s too much for an aging veteran….

      • http://twitter.com/m_burke42 Burke

        no, what im sayin is any combo of those, like 2 of them and a pick. or just 1 and a pick. the point is just get it done,. they need to go for the Cup. Cant roll with this current group and try to topple Pittsburgh. They got too many guns.

  • wheeler

    if you could get a couple of calgarys younger players, along with iggy, i would kiss looch goodbye. i can’t see giving him a big deal, with the lack of effort he gives. he gets winded skating one lenght of the rink.

  • Billy vig

    Just get it done we have $$$ , now do it!!!!!!
    This team needs a wake up call and this would do it.
    If not 1st round and good bye B,s!

  • Bill H.

    Lets just hope it is being worked on right now…

  • Bruinman86

    But at what cost? And would he re-sign as well. Lots of risk involved. Don’t get me wrong: I’d love to have him as a Bruin. I just don’t want to mortgage the future for an older player.

    • Rick White

      It is a risk. If he picked the bruins as one of is top teams, I can’t see why he wouldn’t sign with us next season. But then again there is alot involved in signing a player. So yes it is a risk, but a risk that needs to be taken.

  • Wally

    With most of the current roster locked up, where will these prospects fit in??
    Make the deal!!

  • Tony

    35 year old player for draft picks, guess you have to do it, if for any other reason to stop him from getting traded to penguins or blackhawks

  • jill

    they want way too much for someone with best years behind him – he is not the difference maker that the B’s need – the Bruins are dead on the PP bring in special teams coach just for PP – Claude has proved he has no clue about the Power play – if the B’s could get in the top 10 they would be deadly.

  • Matbos

    I believe Claude will do the right thing and has been letting these guys know they are expendable. Just the way Krejci has been playing on one leg shows he is at least getting the message!

  • Mad Dog

    Lucic and Horton have had one good game all year. They are gliding towards the playoffs. Let’s just hope they decide to play with pride and pick it up then.

  • tom

    DO IT. the right combo of picks and prospects will do it.

  • Iknowmyshit

    He’s going to the Kings to reunite with Sutter. Best chance for him to get a cup in the next 2 to 3 years since they are champs and the youngest team in the league.

  • niftybear

    Replacing Marchand with Paille will only weaken Bergeron’s line, the only line with a semblance of offense this year.

  • MAS

    lets see if lucic coasts around with these guys, I’ve run out of fingers and toes to count how many times I see Lucic coasting around the ice as the other team scores, i still don’t know how he is still a plus rating, it seems like he should be -25… Horton has not been much better, so hopefully his works

  • Scott

    Too old to give up some of our core players that may shake up the chemistry of the team. Two thumbs down!

  • psycho1039

    get rid of Lucic

  • disqus_0lrLqjSgsO

    I’d like to see a 1st period goal before the playoffs.

  • Shoe bottom

    It’s points no doubt but not a lot changes for me. Lucic must play at least two games in a row for me. Still would love to see some new blood I mean the penguins are trading. I keep watching Horton and saying ya he’s going to eventually get popped again and we have another savard situation. Please relocate him ASAP it bennefits all it’s business not personnel.

    • wheeler

      yup…he looks to me like he wants out of here….and the penguins are the overwhelming favorites right now they look strong in all areas

      • Shoe bottom

        Milan wants to be back in British c especially with a new child and I really think Horton is scared cant blame him but half trying get you killed

  • Bruinman86

    Why wouldn’t Rask be the #1???? Khudobin is average

  • ChrisinDanvers

    Not sure why this is a big surprise and grabbing a headline. He is solid goalie, one of the tops in the league, and he’s doing well. And, he has a great backup.

    The platoon idea is not that surprising to see at times this year, especially with the shortened season. And, I am sure, it helps to lower Rask’s value a bit if they want to resign him long-term for less money….though I think the platoon idea really is about getting extended breaks to rest the goalies.

    This is definitely a non-story…unless there is some wild rumor floating around about trading for a goalie.

  • Dano50

    Uh…duh…they have to get the replacements up to speed no? I don’t see these injuries happening because of practice.

  • Chappy

    He showed something Horton and Lucic haven’t showed in a long time……effort.

  • Steve_in_MA

    I think you were watching some other Spooner. Ryan played like a top 6 guy. He won the majority of faceoffs, battled for the puck, went to the net and skated as a gazelle strides. His old, fat linemates couldn’t keep up, nor could they put a pass on the tape. I’m looking forward to the day he is a regular.

  • fab4ever

    NHL reports it would take either 2 prospects, a prospect and a roster player, a roster player and a high pick, a prospect and a pick etc….I.E, it won’t be cheap…..we shall see but there’s no doubt, this team needs help and Claude shuffling the lines is proof that they finally are getting to it….that’s a start….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Barker/34504519 Brian Barker

    But he also has 19 points, so he’s averaging slightly under a point per game which is pretty good. If the Bruins feel that that move would put them over the top then pull the trigger. Prospects are prospects for a reason and its because they haven’t proven they can do it at the big league level

  • bospofan

    I”m not giving up on Peverley. he is not playing well, granted, but of he, Lucic and Horton, Pevs has the most talent AND versatility. bring in Clowe and Iginla to take their places. they are both hungrier than Looch and Horty, imo… AND we can keep our picks

  • bospofan

    Peverley IS a 1 or 2 line center in this league. His passing (at least in years past) is second to none, and has been the best the Bruins have seen since Adam Oates. not sure why he has been in-effective this year. actually he SUCKS this year. but he is capable of playing on the power play and penalty kill as well. you certainly can’t say that about Horton or Lucic, and i was only comparing the three.

  • Bruinman86

    The real hangup is the price tag on trades. Teams want too much because so many teams think they are still in the playoff race. Many are sadly mistaken, but this shortened season is tough for some to judge.

  • Troll Hunter

    Back in first in the division and HUGE game Wednesday. I thought they played pretty well tonight just had a couple of bad breaks go against them and they both ended up in the net. Tuukka had no chance on the pp goal and little chance on the breakaway. Weird he stopped the exact same shot in the shootout.

  • Uncle Buck

    Got the two points. Bring on the Habs.

  • whitey127

    Who are you?? The grammar police?? If you think you are smarter than everyone else, then why did you start a sentence with a lower case letter, rather than a capital?? Do us all a favor, and shut the hell up, JACKWAGON!!

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