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Irish Coffee: How Celtics re-match up against Hawks 04.23.12 at 4:27 pm ET
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UPDATE: Since Al Horford‘s original claim that playing against the Celtics in their first-round series was unrealistic, the Hawks center has changed his tune. A consultation with his surgeon resulted in a prognosis that he could return to the court on Thursday in a limited role, according to the most recent Yahoo! Sports report.

“It remains to be seen what I can bring,” Horford told reporter Marc J. Spears. “But I hope to bring some scoring. They can’t expect a lot from me defensively because it’s been a while since I’ve even played. That’s one of the things that will hold me back, but scoring I can help. And also with presence with the team in general.”

It’s official. When the NBA’s Eastern Conference playoffs begin at month’s end, the Celtics will face the Hawks — the same team that in 2008 took them to seven games in the first round. That was then, when the championship nucleus of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen was just finding its groove. This is now, five years later.

The first four of this core’s 43 playoff wins came against Atlanta, but will its last also come against the Hawks?

The first time around, the home team won all seven games in the series, but that advantage is yet to be settled this season. The Celtics (37-27) own the tiebreaker but trail Atlanta (38-26) by a game. While neither of the C’s final two opponents has much motivation left (the Heat have an outside shot at the No. 1 seed, but the Bucks have been eliminated), the Hawks host the Clippers and Mavericks — both still jockeying for playoff position out West.

Regardless, this promises to be a different series, full of fresh faces. Case in point, Avery Bradley was a junior in high school the last time these two teams met in a playoff game. Now, he’s replaced Allen in the starting lineup.

On the Celtics side, Garnett, Pierce and Allen remain, and Rajon Rondo has developed from the perceived weak link five years ago to a three-time NBA All-Star. In two games against the Hawks this season, he has averaged 16.5 assists, 10.0 points and 6.5 rebounds, including a triple-double on April 11. Everyone else from 2008 is gone.

The Celtics backcourt's defense against Joe Johnson should be a major factor against the Hawks. (AP)

The Hawks started Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Mike Bibby and Marvin Williams five seasons ago. Jeff Teague has since replaced Bibby as the team’s starting point guard, and as for Horford, Yahoo! Sports reporter Marc J. Spears tweeted, “He does not expect to play in the postseason due to pectoral injury.”

“I don’t feel like it is realistic that I can play for the playoffs,” Horford told Spears. “Obviously, if we advance and start going we will see. But as of right now the way I feel I think I am out for the playoffs.”

Celtics nemesis Zaza Pachulia replaced Hoford as Atlanta’s starting center, although he’s missed the last five games and remains day-to-day with a sprained left foot. Kirk Hinrich took over the starting shooting guard duties, moving Williams into a Sixth Man role alongside stalwart Ivan Johnson and a revolving door of Jannero Pargo, Willie Green, Tracy McGrady, Vladimir Radmanovic and Jason Collins off the bench.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are also awaiting good news on injuries to Allen (ankle) and Mickael Pietrus (knee), who have missed seven and three straight games, respectively. The C’s remain hopeful both will be healthy for the playoffs, forming a tight eight-man rotation with Greg Stiemsma as the backup big behind Garnett and Brandon Bass. Keyon Dooling might see some minutes, but don’t expect much from anyone else.

The Celtics will enter the series with a 2-1 record against the Hawks in three tight games this season. The C’s won the first two meetings, 79-76 and 88-86 (OT), and even gave Atlanta a run for its money in a 97-92 loss while Doc Rivers rested Pierce, Rondo, Garnett, Allen and Pietrus. But let’s dig a little deeper.

Celtics (rank) … TEAM OFFENSE … Hawks (rank)
98.6 (25th) … Points Per 100 Possessions … 101.3 (17th)
45.9 (5th) … FG% … 44.9 (14th)
36.4 (6th) … 3P% … 36.5 (5th)
77.9 (5th) … FT% … 73.8 (23rd)
23.6 (1st) … Assist Rate … 21.2 (8th)
14.8 (26th) … Turnover Rate … 13.4 (10th)
20.1 (30th) … Offensive Rebound Rate … 24.0 (25th)

Celtics (rank) … TEAM DEFENSE … Hawks (rank)
95.2 (1st) … Points Allowed Per 100 Possessions … 98.5 (6th)
41.6 (1st) … FG% … 44.2 (11th)
29.7 (1st) … 3P% … 33.7 (8th)
28.7 (19th) … Free Throw Rate … 24.9 (6th)
17.5 (1st) … Assist Rate … 19.6 (14th)
14.5 (5th) … Turnover Rate … 14.3 (6th)
72.5 (21st) … Defensive Rebound Rate … 74.3 (8th)

Really, an argument could be made for either team as the superior offense. Atlanta scores more, hits the offensive glass harder and turns the ball over less frequently, but the Celtics shoot more efficiently from the field and the free throw line while ranking atop the NBA in passing.

However, there is no debate over which squad owns the better defense. While the Hawks might be improved since years past, the Celtics rank first in the league in opponents’ points per 100 possessions, field goal percentage, 3-point percentage (a bonus against a team that attempts 5.1 more treys per game) and assist rate. The number of free throws Celtics opponents attempt also indicates a more physical style of play.

Oversimplifying, if the C’s can rebound and take care of the ball, home court shouldn’t matter, so free agents Allen and Garnett won’t have to watch the same team that opened this playoff window be the group to close it. After all, Bovada lists the Celtics at 16-1 to win the NBA title — significantly better odds than the Hawks (75-1).

(Have a question, concern or conception for tomorrow’s Irish Coffee? Send a message to @brohrbach on Twitter.)

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  • ron

    wtf is mike salk

  • NE1935

    The Bruins have become the Celtics of hockey 21 GA’S/TA’s to 4 for Carolina. Cannot handle the puck and Savard is not comming thru the door.
    Keystone cop exhibition. Power Play terrible and penalty killing has disappeared.

  • NYCBruinsFan

    This team is not playing like the Bruins. Allow 2 power plays by the Canes and can’t even score when they have a 5 on 3? Lucic and others are absent. It would be nice to see him get one off his stick and not his skate. Just standing their like an oaf, no hustle and being out played. I think it’s about time Cam our President comes down from the sky box to the locker room and starts kicking butt. there are a number of guys that have to be reminded what it means to be a Bruin and the effort expected every game. Absolutely a huge disappointment losing to such an inferior team.

    • Fab4ever

      Lucic is a dog…a bonafide woof! 2011 is in the rear view mirror. There’s only so much makeup you can put on a pig. In the end, it’s still a pig.

      • Bruinman86

        Much of that falls on Claude for not motivating him or disciplining him. Line demotion still mean he gets to play. Lame.

        • fab4ever

          Lame indeed. I’m sick of the excuses my man…

  • mike

    Bruins are a waste

  • Bruinman86

    Correction: Lowly B’s can’t beat Lowly Hurricanes.

  • Bill

    Really looking forward to the playoffs despite this skid.

  • Steve

    Chara is pathetic
    its a joke that he is the Captain
    he looses more one on one battles to players that are half his size and he sucks along with I could care Less Luci the team.stinks and like the Celtics will get destroyed in the playoffs

    • glenn88

      Steve, lets not overreact. The guy is the best d-man in hockey and if not for him this team would have no identity and their system wouldn’t work. The guy is probably gassed because of his size, age and time on ice. Giving some of these guys a night off down the stretch may not be a bad idea.

  • Dismas

    Tell Sheppard I said hey.

  • wheeler

    this is a replay of last year. when is clodie going to react to the fact that the players are not reacting to him. someone has to go. someone needs benching. krejci is way way overrated

  • Uncle Buck

    Most of you guys make valid points here. This team is a mess right now. But I would not turn my back on them. They have shown us what they are capable of doing earlier in the year. I don’t think they have forgotten that. I hate excuses more than anyone, but they are physically toasted. You can see it easily. They are not finishing checks, they get trapped in their own end constantly, and there is puck panic all over the ice. If, they can get rested and healthy, I don’t think anyone would want to draw them in the playoffs. Go ahead, call me a homer, but the problems I see are fixable. The only one I am unsure about it Lucic. I thought Neely may be able to get in his head a bit, but it hasn’t happened. He has to be hurt. If it isn’t that, than I have no idea.

  • jimbozz59

    only in Boston do top playoff teams get hammered by the so called fans

    • geektja0

      Because the fans here actually know something about the game. Play well or get slammed. Right now they ain’t playin so well

    • NYCBruinsFan

      Welcome to Boston where we don’t accept complacency. We should all be demanding the best from our team everytime they’re out there.

  • geektja0

    BORING!!!!

  • Chappy77

    ..going through the motions….the comments being made by the players over and over are “we’re tired..” Mentally tired and physically tired are 2 different things – they should be mentally tired of not showing up for games…the guys that are (or should be) physically tired are Chara, Seidenberg (where would this team be without him?), and Boychuk. The entire 1st line needs to sit and watch – not because ethey are tired but because they put forth zero effort…zero. Seguin needs to be on the ice many more minutes than he is – after the 1st line Peverly and Ference are big disapointments this year.

  • Titletown1

    Tuuka is not the answer. He’s a talented goalie, but not one a franchise can depend upon to make a championship run. Neely and the ownership need to think long and hard before they spend money on this guy.
    Lucic should be packaged in the offseason and sent out of town. He’s an oxygen thief at this point.
    Give-aways, turnovers, no physical play, soft goals given up…..pathetic.

    • Deano42

      Who exactly would you put in net to give us the best chance of winning this year instead of Tuuka Rask? Has he shown he cannot win the cup yet?

      Rask has been one of the most consistent Bruins this year, and his numbers back that up. Rask’s numbers this year 1.99 GAA (5th in the NHL), Save % .929 (3rd in the NHL and the most important stat for goalies), 17 wins (10th in the NHL)

      Rask is a talented butterfly goalie who keeps his upper body unusually high when dropping down in the butterfly. Thus negating the open space over the glove and blocker better than most butterfly goalies (See Luongo). Rask has greatly improved his angles to the puck this year and has been far more aggressive on the first shot. This increased aggresiveness works well for the Bruins, because they force a lot of shots from the outside due to the trap system. With the numbers he has put up, if the Bruins make it past the second round (which they should), Bruins will be lucky to bring Rask back at 5.5 m per season after this year.

      The playoffs will determine what Rask get’s in his next deal. Rask is making me feel confident because if he didn’t believe in his own abilities come playoff time, he would have resigned with the Bruins already. Rask could be our biggest advantage come playoff time if he gets hot.

  • ChrisinDanvers

    Good to see Bergeron back on skates and closer to his return. Hopefully they do not push him, but they definitely could use him back. Good to here Bergeron say this concussion was less significant; if there is anyone who should know best about these things, it would be him.

    As for Marchand, it would be great to have him back soon, too. If I am correct, I believe if he has a diagnosed concussion, he has to wait at least one week before he can return per NHL rules.

  • wheeler

    are any of these newley aquired stiffs ever going to play? and if kaspers dogcrap is your answer forget him, he is aweful

  • Matt

    Awesome decision. Hopefully some people (Gerry Callahan) will not stir the pot about this and be a complete hypocrite when the bruins look sluggish in the first game of the playoffs when they have one less day of rest compared to all the other teams in order to finish this makeup game in, and focus on the real issue at hand.

  • Uncle Buck

    Horrific event on a beautiful day in a great city. This is one of Boston’s best and most celebrated days of the year, and it has forever been tarnished. All the great things taking place at that finish line for folks from all over the world, all with their own very interesting stories, just unspeakable. Truly the end of innocence is here.

  • ChrisinDanvers

    Good move on the part of the Bruins, for the safety of everyone in the city, as well as out of respect for what happened.

    Our thoughts and prayers are with all of those who were in and around the area today, and those who were victims of this tragedy.

  • http://twitter.com/Mamarouix Patricia Crowley

    I was on my way back from NY and was so impressed by the way the men on the radio presented the awful Boston Marathon bombing — Very respectful — They stopped talking about Patriots and paid attention to this terrible event. Well done —

  • http://twitter.com/Mamarouix Patricia Crowley

    Cam Neely is a class act—

  • NYCBruinsFan

    My prayers are with those in Boston now. May God bless all and those effected.

  • tbos42

    Kinda makes up for them booing when our National Anthem was sang in their “Arena”. Still a shithole organization….

    • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.connors.714 Andrew Connors

      no..no it doesnt

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.kilderry John Kilderry

      Stop being a Republican.

    • FJM

      If you remember, they booed the anthem over GW Bush’s completely illegitimate Iraq campaign, which also resulted in innocent people being blown up… so stop being a cretin, and give props to those who oppose violence in anyone’s name. The victims and families of this horrific act in Beantown deserve better than your lame jingoistic chest thumping.

      • Patriot04-15-2013

        FJM. seriously get a clue about what you are talking about Bush. I can’t stand people who rant about stuff they have no clue about. Go research all the Democrats who thought they had WMB. You criticize other for ranting and you did the exact same thing. God bless the people affected by this tragedy.

  • psycho1039

    They always know how to bring it in Chicago at Blackhawks games….chills:

    http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/latest/1/0/906197/clip/0

  • Bruce

    Thank you, Les Habitants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001103848196 Robert Rogers

    Good to see even if they are enemies on the ice they have decency and respect

  • Thank You Montreal

    These gestures are greatly appreciated.

  • ChrisinDanvers

    Classy gesture by the Habs. Nice touch!

  • Joe

    I’m been laughing at that line for 5 minutes. Well done.

  • NYCBruinsFan

    LOL Best response ever. Maybe he’s recently been reading Aesop’s Fables and is pacing himself like The Tortoise and the Hare. Wish he had read The Dog and Its Reflection instead.

  • DLK1124

    I was laughing as I wrote it!! He sucks!

  • Mike

    He’s better than we are, but compared to what he could be, ‘sucks’ is as apt a description as there is.

  • Evan-Goalie

    Did you just add that marchand part in, or am I just stupid either its what I wanted to hear if he was cleard for contact or not

  • fab4ever

    Like what happened in NYC, this affects more than just our great city, just in a much smaller scope… The world was represented …all the different nations competing in friendly competition…it was horrific…the emerging details are horrific…you begin to wonder what we’ve become as a species…we grieve for all…

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  • fab4ever

    Dude, yes,,,you are missing the point…highly inappropriate? Truly…but with your comments, you fall right into the trap…it’s red versus blue as far as your concerned. What you fail to realize this wasn’t an attack against Massachusetts, this was an attack against America, just like it was in NYC or Oklahoma City..liberals, conservatives, Atheists, etc…..and please, never confuse Massachusetts with being just being liberal, no matter where the rank is…it’s a state full of diverse and free thinking folks…and these virtues are guaranteed by the US Constitution, just like your spiteful words are…I’m not from MA, and my beliefs lean much to the right…but when you intimate that because the state is “liberal”, you almost give the bombings some credence, like it happened because of the way these people voted. IMHO, Michael Moore and Bill Maher, all of them are entitled to what they say…I choose NEVER to give them one minute of my precious time…whack jobs indeed. .

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