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Celtics undergoing a defensive identity crisis 11.22.12 at 1:14 am ET
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When Brandon Bass tipped home a Paul Pierce jumper with 1:28 left in their 112-100 loss to the Spurs, the Celtics avoided joining San Antonio as the only other team in the last 25 years not to grab an offensive rebound. Instead, they grabbed one — an NBA statistic that’s occurred just 16 times in the past quarter-century.

Of course, three of those 16 occurrences now belong to the Celtics. Only the other two games produced an entirely different result: a 103-79 blowout of the 76ers this past April and a 122-103 defeat of the Pacers during the 2008 championship season. The C’s shot better than 50 percent on both occasions, just as they did in Wednesday night’s loss to the Spurs, so there weren’t exactly a lot of offensive rebounds to be grabbed.

In other words, the Celtics should hope they only have one offensive rebound every night.

“You’re a big believer in offensive rebounds I think; I’m not,” said Celtics coach Doc Rivers. “You can pick on that all you want. That is a number I rarely look at. Statistically, it holds up. I can tell you: You don’t offensive rebound, you stop transition, you win more games than when you get offensive rebounds. I can guarantee you that.”

Sounds great in theory, except for the fact that MySynergySports.com ranks the C’s rank dead last statistically in transition defense, which is a entirely different problem. And a much bigger one.

“Obviously, we would like to get some offensive rebounds, and if we’re under there we’ll take them,” added Rivers. “We didn’t get any, but that isn’t why we lost. Let me just say that. Offensive rebounds is the least of our problems.”

Overall, the C’s defensive rating (106.3 points allowed per 100 possessions) ranks them behind 21 other teams. Since Kevin Garnett‘s arrival, the Celtics have never finished worse than fifth in that category, and they’ve finished either first or second in four of his five full seasons, including tops in the league last season.

“You notice that we’re getting beat [on the glass], but what you don’t know is that we do a lot of helping,” said Garnett. “Our bigs do a lot to help our guards out. We strategically have different schemes that we throw at teams night in and night out, and where we get hit is offensive rebounding. It’s one of our flaws. That’s what it is, but we’re help a team, and that’s what we are. I don’t think Doc’s going to change that. …

“We’re not going to be able to take everything away. I’m sure some of the personnel that we’ve brought in for this year and some of the personnel from the past two or three years have been just for that, and it’s what we are. We’ll get better, and as the year goes on, I have a lot of confidence that we will get better.”

Only the Celtics haven’t shown any signs that it’s about to get better anytime soon. Against the Spurs, they allowed 100 points for the fifth time this season, including the third time in the last four games. San Antonio shot 58.4 percent from the field — also the fifth time the C’s have allowed an opponent to shoot better than 50 percent.

“We’re not taking away anything,” said Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo. “We gave up the corner 3 tonight, we gave up paint touches and paint finishes, we gave up too many and-1’s again. I think we probably lead the league in and-1’s, so we’ve got to do a better job — not to hurt anyone — but not let guys finish at the rim.”

Time after time, the Celtics remind anyone who will listen that it takes time to adapt new players like Jeff Green, Jason Terry and Jared Sullinger into their “grind-it-out” defensive identity, but nobody has an answer for how long that might actually take.

“That’s not who we are,” said Celtics captain Paul Pierce. “For us to do damage here in the Eastern Conference, that’s the type of team we’ve got to beat. It’s got to come from everybody. We’ve got to all look at each other in the mirror. It’s not just one particular person. It’s the starters starting out, it’s the guys on the bench. It’s a team game, so we’ve got to take it personal as a team and go out there and do something about it.

“When you have one breakdown on the defensive end, it breaks down all five guys. If you allow the ball to get to the middle, it’s like a domino effect. You have another man help and another man help, and it leads to wide open shooters or breakdowns on the defense. So, it has to come from all of us, where we’re always on the same page, communicating, talking, so those are the little things you have to do to be a great defensive team.”

If things don’t change, the Celtics might have to face an identity crisis before time runs out.

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  • Gigi

    NO!!!

  • Ryan

    Unfortunately, given the big toll on the body playing third base entales, plus the fact that he’s injury prone, I think it’s time to cut bait with Youk and get as much as you can for him.  He’s clearly not the third baseman of the future.  Ship him!

  • Lilpapiarth34

    Of the course the red sox need pitching… you have to understand Youkilis was hurt last year. Boston needs to let him prove him self in the upcoming year, and if he plays like an all-star, then he is much more valuable. Once that happens, hen you go and trade him for an elite pitcher!

  • lilpapiarth34

    Of the course the red sox need pitching… you have to understand Youkilis was hurt last year. Boston needs to let him prove him self in the upcoming year, and if he plays like an all-star, then he is much more valuable. Once that happens, hen you go and trade him for an elite pitcher!

  • 123Star

    trade Youk to Oakland for Bailey

    • Soxfan49

      I like the idea, but keep in mind it seems like the A’s aren’t looking to win now, they’re in more of a rebuilding phase. They’d probably want prospects for Bailey

  • Bielawski82

    “but if the Sox had a chance to deal Youkilis for a No. 4 starter — a 30 starts, 4.30 ERA kind of guy — I’d do it in a flash”

    I had to stop reading right there.  What an insult… so basically Youkilis is worth a slightly above average dime-a-dozen major league starter, that’s it.  Now let’s be real and assume Daniel Bard will be at least good (20 starts, around 4 era) to great (30 starts, sub 3 era).  That leaves one more rotation spot… assuming the worst case scenario that both Alfredo Aceves and Felix Doubront have some trouble regarding health and/or performance, it would still be an insult to figure they aren’t collectively worth about 30 starts at an era around 4.5… maybe 5 at worst.  That’s fine for a fifth starter.

    Meanwhile even a down-year Youkilis is worth more at the plate than 90 percent of the rest of the league.  If he’s having a great year, he’s a top 10 player.  So again… you don’t throw him away for a #4 or 5 starter.  No common sense in that…

  • johnsilver

    What was nicely left out of that entire story was if they had a manager who knew how to control his team.. as in MANAGE them, they might not have fallen either. Instead, he ran off, let them continue doing their own thing, drinking, everything else they had no business doing from the start he let them get away with.

    Was it all Francona’s fault? of course not, but terry allowing that, players to dictate to coaches (fitness) what they were going to do was 100% his own doing.

    Now there is softie in charge and good luck having it their own way from now on.

  • Clean House

    Red Sox made a horrific morale nuking blunder with the decision of filming a video driving kids to go to a pornographic transvestite website starring captain trans veitak and pukelis who both need to be purged from the system along with any other homo helper that has infested this cavalcade of indoctrinated evil sox puppets.

  • Soxfan49

    The collapse this year was horrific, that’s been established. The clubhouse was a mess, Tito lost the players, the starting pitching sucked, and many players with very good track records underpreformed. It was not the usual season. We’ve heard from interviews and press conferences that these players are going to come back with a vengeance because they feel they have something to prove. While I do think that last year unvailed many problem areas in the organization, I also think mnany of them have been blown out of proportion considering the way the season ended. Although I do believe that there are drastic changes that needed to be made, I don’t believe we have to gut everyone that had issues last year. I see the value in trading Youk, and I agree that the Sox need to clear cap space to potentially resign Jacoby and stay under the luxury tax, and I also agree that we need starting pitching. However, I believe that we need Youk in the lineup and at third base. I believe he will be his regular all-star game self this year and everyone in that clubhouse will be working harder than they thought possible and on their best behavior under Bobby V.

    • joseph

      I hope you’re rightbut I also believe in the Easter bunny

  • Tom Russell

    Yes

  • C Leddy12

    You don’t dump a middle of the order 3B for a fourth starter. 

  • Tony

    I think Uncle Ben is hoping the sox can stay in the race near the all-star break, then try to get a player or players to help them then. Don’t look for anything major now, most of the players everyone has talked about signed or got traded to other teams. Let’s face it what the sox need is arms,arms and more arms..every day line up is set. What I like to see them do is bulid a strong farm system so if a player goes down during the season he can step in or if we loss someone via free agency we have the players in the system to step up.

  • Tony L

    no

  • Pattym6649

    I believe the Sox did address the biggest flaws in 2011.  Terry Francona who let the club house run wild and a Captain named Jason Varitek who didn’t stand up to internal problems

  • Cousin Joey P.

    The Red Sox screwed this up last offseason…Beltre and Victor Martinez should have been re-signed, both wanted to stay and were popular clubhouse guys. Martinez could have been your DH and filled in catching. Ortiz should have been allowed to walk. If the Red Sox HAD to have Adrian Gonzalez, they could have waited a year a signed him as a free agent and not purged the entire farm system to get him. Youkilis could have then been moved for pitching help. The Crawford signing was a mistake, as that was more of a PR move than a baseball move.

    Theo Epstein made a mess and then ran away as fast as he could. They have overpriced players signed to long-term deals. If signing Ellsbury is a priority, as it should be, don’t count on this team spending any major money over the next two seasons.

  • Howie

    Getting rid of Lowrie means they absolutely cannot deal Youk.  Bad move that one.

  • Esaf

    Get rid of him. He’s useless. The red sox should have Adrian beltre

  • Bigfinn

    Wish they hadn’t signed Mr. Hustle (Ortiz) and made Youk the DH.

  • Bruinman86

    I would certainly explore the idea and what the return would be.  If you can’t get much for him, then it would be foolish to trade him.  I think we’d all be fools to think Ben hasn’t looked into it already.

  • Mike

    Youk not going anywhere. He moves to DH next year when Middlebrooks takes over 3rd base!

  • vjklander

    How can he be a deep threat???   Is Hoyer starting at QB????

  • madmc44

    I like Bedard but give Ben a break–he would have been criticized by the 2/3 that felt Bedard was too brittle.
    I would suggest signing two former Pirates:
    Paul Maholm and former Yankee, 1 st round pick of the D’Backs Ross Ohlendorf–a Princeton grad that only had a hand full of starts last year but had 50 starts combined the previous two years with a combined 4.00 ERA. Perhaps a Min.League contract with a ST invite. It would be amazing to have him make the opening Day roster–the second year we’ve picked up a Yankee castoff a few years removed.

  • innovator

    How about moving Crawford??!!!

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