|Ian Thomsen: After C’s moves, ‘not sure who they are now’||02.25.11 at 1:56 pm ET|
Sports Illustrated senior writer Ian Thomsen joined the midday show Friday with guest hosts John Rooke and Kirk Minihane to talk about the Celtics‘ moves this week, mainly the trade that sent Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to the Thunder for Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic.
Thomsen said the Celtics forged an identity this season as a big physical team, following their NBA finals loss to the Lakers last June. Now, the identity has changed.
“First of all, I was just wondering who the Celtics are now?” Thomsen said of his initial reaction to the trade. “Before they signed [Shaquille O'Neal] last summer, I was wondering who they were. Because they were outrebounded in the finals, the Lakers front line looked too big for them, even when Perkins was playing. But then when they got Shaq, and you thought about Shaq and Perkins as the front line, now you thought that they were going to have an edge to them, they were going to be able to play down low, they’d always have a big man in there, for 48 minutes, potentially.
“And now again, I’m just not sure who they are now, what the edge is. There are things that they can no longer take for granted: that they can guard Dwight Howard one on one, that they’re going to throw a lot of size at the Lakers ‘ like a big offensive line that creates room for [Rajon] Rondo and all the other guys.
“So, it’s just now going to be interesting to see what’s going to be the new identity of the team. Because no matter what they do, if they get Troy Murphy or anybody else, it won’t be able to replicate what they had in Perkins. And Shaq just won’t be able to give them enough minutes, even if he’s healthy ‘ 25, 28, 30 minutes, maybe.”
Looking at matchups against the C’s main competition, such as LeBron James‘ Heat, Thomsen said you can evaluate it a couple of ways.
“It’s like a chicken-or-egg thing,” he said. “Do you respond to matchups of other teams or do you create matchups of your own that they can’t deal with? So now, against Miami, was one reason Boston had an edge over Miami this year because of guys like Kendrick Perkins and the physical edge that they clearly have over Miami? So, you can say, OK, you don’t need to worry about Miami’s big men, so you can afford to get rid of Kendrick Perkins. But in letting go of him, are you letting go of your inherent advantage over them. And now are you sort of playing their game as opposed to making them play your game. They’re less of an imposing team without Perkins. They’re playing more to Miami’s style.
“On the other hand, Jeff Green is huge against LeBron. Because the Celtics knew they couldn’t win without a real backup 3 to help [Paul] Pierce against LeBron, to help against Kobe [Bryant], some of these other big guys on the wings. And now they have that. Jeff Green is going to come off the bench, and LeBron is going to know that for the 43 or 44 minutes he’s playing every playoff game this spring, he’s going to have somebody decent guarding him.”
|Steve Pagliuca on D&C: ‘Put the emotions aside,’ and deal is good for C’s||02.25.11 at 9:21 am ET|
Celtics owner Steve Pagliuca checked in with the Dennis & Callahan show and guest hosts Mike Adams and Bob Halloran on Friday morning to talk about the C’s flurry of moves before Thursday’s trade deadline. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page.
The big trade was Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to the Thunder for Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic. Pagliuca said he has confidence president of basketball operations Danny Ainge made the right call.
“I have mixed emotions,” Pagliuca said. “I loved Kendrick Perkins as a person and a player, and he helped us get a championship. So, that’s the tough part of the sports business. You’ve got to try to make the club better if you have opportunities. Danny’s done a great job at that over the last eight years, since we’ve been here. He assessed that this was something that would be great for the short run to help us win a championship again, and the longer run.
“I think it could be a win-win for both clubs. Because their club is full of shooters and they need somebody tough inside, and there’s nobody tougher than Kendrick. We picked up a guy, Jeff Green, who was drafted fifth, averaging 15 points a game, he can play the 3, the 4, maybe even the 2 at times. And Nenad Krstic, who’s a great shooter, which really balances [Rajon] Rondo out. Rondo will have a free lane now, because they’ve got to go out and cover Nenad, because he can hit the shot.”
Added Pagliuca: “Danny, again, I think has done a great job. Put the emotions aside ‘ because he loves Kendrick as well ‘ but this will be good for the club.”
The C’s also traded Semih Erden and Luke Harangody to the Cavaliers for a draft pick and shipped the injured Marquis Daniels to the Kings for another pick. This leaves some questions at the center position, as Shaquille O’Neal and Jermaine O’Neal remain sidelined with injuries. Pagliuca said that should turn around soon, as the Celtics’ bench will become a major strength.
“We got two starting players ‘ one averaging 15 points a game; I think Kristic is averaging close to 10 ‘ so, yeah, it’s going to make us very deep,” he said. “And on top of that, Shaq is working really hard to come back, and Jermaine is looking good; I saw him on the bike the other day. If all the things go our way, we’re going to have a very deep team going into the playoffs. And I think that’s what Danny wanted to accomplish.”
The other question concerns the toughness the Celtics lost with the departure of Perkins. “We’ve got a lot of tough players,” Pagliuca said. “Shaq’s a pretty tough player, and he’s coming back. He’s pretty tough in the paint there. [Glen Davis] is a tough player. Baby can bang with anybody. Krstic is also a fighter. He’s no wallflower as well. ‘¦ He’s a fiery player and he wants to win. So, I think we’re going to be very tough and our guys will bring it up a notch.”
|Jackie MacMullan on D&H: Celtics’ problems at center critical||02.11.11 at 1:12 pm ET|
Basketball Hall of Fame writer Jackie MacMullan joined the Dale & Holley show Friday to talk about the Celtics and news from around the NBA. While Kobe Bryant scored 20 of his 23 points in the second half to spark a Lakers comeback Thursday night, MacMullan attributed most of the blame for the Celtics’ loss on their sudden lack of depth at center. To hear the interview, go to the Dale & Holley audio on demand page.
“That was the game in a nutshell,” she said. “Their bigs just played really, really well, crushed them on the boards, made things happen in the paint. We know Kobe can turn it on, as he did in the second half. And we all knew when he had three points at halftime that it wouldn’t end that way. But to me, it really was about what went on in the paint last night.”
Ray Allen broke the NBA record for career 3-pointers Thursday night. MacMullan noted that despite the lofty praise, Allen has not always been the most coachable player. Said MacMullan: “It was just so funny to me how, as he was approaching the record, everyone was saying, ‘Oh, Ray Allen, a coach’s dream, the greatest veteran, what a model, an ambassador for the NBA.’ And I was thinking, ‘Whoa.’ I can remember a lot of coaches that really struggled with Ray, including the one here.
“And that doesn’t mean they don’t love him ‘ and certainly Doc [Rivers] and Ray have found their way together ‘ but that’s not who Ray is. Ray’s going to challenge you and Ray’s going to question you. Because he wants things to work within his own parameters. And to me, that was the most interesting part about this quest for the 3-point title, was he did it through multiple coaches, each of whom at one point or another I’m sure were saying, ‘This guy drives me nuts!’ ”
Addressing the rumors of a trade that would send Carmelo Anthony to the Lakers, MacMullan noted that Lakers owner Jerry Buss has been looking to trim payroll, not add to it. Plus, the Lakers already have a title-contending team without adding a player with defensive liabilities who would take some time to learn the triangle offense. “It just didn’t make sense to me,” she said. “Not if you’re the Lakers and you’re right there.”
MacMullan, who had lunch Thursday with Lakers coach Phil Jackson, said she believes Jackson will stick to his word and retire at the end of the season. “The impression I get is that Phil is at the end of the road,” she said. “He didn’t say that, he won’t say anything about it. But that’s the impression I get. I think he’s come to the point where it’s time to step away again.”
MacMullan was talking to Jackson for a book she’s writing about Shaquille O’Neal. “He gave me some great insight on Shaquille, who he has a great affection for to this day, really loved being with him,” she said. “And you know, when it was Phil, Kobe and Shaq, nine times out of 10, Phil was siding with Shaq, not Kobe.”
|Ray Allen on D&C: ‘People in Boston deserve that’ record moment||02.11.11 at 10:06 am ET|
Celtics guard Ray Allen joined the Dennis & Callahan show Friday morning to talk about breaking the NBA career 3-point record in Thursday’s loss to the Lakers. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page.
Allen said he enjoyed the run-up to his record-breaking night. While he was disappointed that the C’s lost the game, he said he didn’t think the spotlight on his achievement negatively affected the team. “I was concerned ‘ so much attention and so much adulation going toward me, everybody was talking about this going into the night,” he said. “But I thought that it worked out in our favor, because so much momentum went in our favor.”
After breaking Reggie Miller‘s record, Allen went over and embraced the former Pacers star, now a TNT analyst. Asked if he would want someone to break his record someday, Allen said, “The human part of me says no, but I guess it depends who it is, who it ends up being. It’s just like anything, when you see any major athlete or championship. You look at the Green Bay Packers, and everybody was happy for the Packers because Aaron Rodgers is a good guy. ‘¦ You’re happy for people who you know that are good people.”
Rodgers is one of Allen’s famous friends who sent a congratulatory text, along with actor Anthony Anderson and NBA legend Michael Jordan.
Allen said he sought out Miller before the game for advice, because the only thing he was nervous about was how to react after the milestone was reached. Said Allen: “I asked Reggie when I spoke to Reggie before the game, I was like, ‘What do I do?’ When this moment comes, I was like, ‘What do I do? I don’t know what to do.’ I’m so used to, you go high-five a teammate or chest-bump him because it’s something that we share together. But when everybody’s looking at me, I’m looking around, like, ‘Uh, I need to grab somebody right now.’ So, he was like, ‘It’s your time. you just do whatever you feel, whatever feels good to you. You just let it go.’ ”
Allen said he was pleased to share the moment with Boston fans, who gave him an ovation during a timeout shortly after the shot. “I think the way it happened, it was amazing,” he said, noting that he agreed with the decision not to stop the game. “Because once we did go to a timeout, people were still just excited and ready to continue to cheer. That was why it was so special to be in the building. People in Boston deserve that. People will talk about that forever, and I’m glad it happened ‘ me to be the guy they experienced that with.”
The 35-year-old also talked about his legendary work ethic. Said Allen: “Every single day, I always tell people, I have this itch. And the itch is, What if you don’t make the free throw in the fourth quarter? What if you don’t make the 3 in the fourth quarter? And when I feel that way, I get up in the morning and I head straight to the gym like I’m possessed, like, ‘OK, I’ve got to get these shots up.’ Because I need to always be prepared and I need to show my team that I’m always going to be prepared.”
|Kendrick Perkins on D&H: Ray Allen’s outburst was shocking but pleasing||02.03.11 at 2:20 pm ET|
Celtics center Kendrick Perkins joined the Dale & Holley show Thursday afternoon and talked about his early return from knee surgery. To hear the interview, go to the Dale & Holley audio on demand page.
“I just put in a lot of hard work,” he explained. “Every day I was in here making sure I was getting my physical therapy in, making sure I was in the weight room every day. I just wanted to get back. I wanted to get back the smart way.”
Perkins acknowledged that he has a ways to go before he returns to form. “There’s a few times around the basket where I’m used to just catching it and going up and dunking,” he said. “My lift is not all the way there yet.”
Perkins said he’s pleased with the minutes he’s been getting since coming back. “I can’t complain,” he said. “I’m happy to be back out there. I’m playing a lot right now. So, I can’t complain one bit. I know one thing about Doc [Rivers], he’s going to look out for my best interests. But he also wants to win games. So, if I’m not producing, I should come out. But I feel like if I’m producing out there, then just leave me out there. I think he’s gradually starting to play me a little bit more and more. So it’s cool.”
The absence of Perkins in the first half of the season was made easier for the Celtics with the play of Shaquille O’Neal. “I think he’s brought a lot,” Perkins said. “Obviously, he’s given us depth. For a 38-year-old man, he’s playing well. He’s fit right on in with us. The chemistry is great. Obviously, you know everything about his basketball ‘ he’s physical, he’s intimidating and all this. So, I think he brings a lot to the team. A lot.”
Perkins called Kevin Garnett and Rajon Rondo “divas” when they gave him a hard time about signing a poster for him. He was asked to elaborate on that comment. “Divas are like people who want things a certain way ‘ their way ‘ all the time. That’s what divas are,” he said. “They want their socks laid out a certain way or something of that nature. That’s why I called them divas. They want their own seat on the bench and stuff like that. They give a teammate and a friend that they’ve known for years trouble about signing a poster for me. That’s divas ‘ just giving me a hard time, but they know they’re really going to do it, but they’ve got to give you a hard time first.”
Ray Allen ripped into the second unit at halftime of Tuesday’s victory over the Kings. Perkins said he was surprised but pleased with the veteran’s rare outburst. “I was very shocked,” Perkins said. “Because you know, Ray is a guy who very seldom shows emotions. I think he’s always one of the most poised guys on the team. So, he was very frustrated at halftime, and he had a reason to be. I actually was shocked, but I actually was like, ‘Yeah, Ray!’ I loved it. First I thought it was KG when I walked in. But it was Ray, so I was loving it.”
Perkins was injured in Game 6 of the 2010 finals and did not play in Game 7 as the Lakers rallied for the win. Asked if he thinks the Celtics would have won the title had he been healthy, he said: “I think so. I know one thing ‘ we probably wouldn’t have gotten outrebounded by 20. So, I believe so.”
|Doc Rivers on D&C: Ray Allen’s halftime speech ‘out of the ordinary, for sure’||02.03.11 at 9:47 am ET|
The Celtics have thus far avoided a second-half letdown like the one that hurt them last season, costing them homecourt advantage for most of the playoffs. Rivers acknowledged that the obvious reason is the health of Kevin Garnett, but he noted that there are other factors as well, including having a healthy Paul Pierce.
“People forget, both were injured. Paul Pierce had the knee surgery as well as Kevin Garnett,” Rivers said. “So, I think those two things are the biggest difference. And [Rajon] Rondo is another year [more experienced], playing great. And Ray Allen is having an unbelievable season. I think all those, in the one basket, is the reason we’re playing well. But the big key is Kevin and Paul.”
Allen gave a fiery speech before Rivers entered the locker room at halftime of Tuesday’s victory over the Kings. Rivers said Allen got everyone’s attention because he’s not normally that vocal.
“Yeah, that was out of the ordinary, for sure. The tone and just the entire speech,” Rivers said. “It was more about playing the right away. And you could hear it. It was at the second unit. He wasn’t mad at the starters. it was all directed to the second unit. The starters came out and played great to start that game, and then the second unit kind of let it go. And it was more how they’re were playing. And that’s what he was frustrated with.”
Reggie Miller has said he’s cheering for Allen to break his record for most 3-pointers all-time, as Allen is within eight of the former Pacers star and current TNT analyst. However, the hosts said they don’t believe Miller, never known for his graciousness during his playing days, is telling the truth. “No, I don’t believe him, either,” Rivers said. “I’m going to call ‘bull’ on that one with Reggie.”
|Chris Mannix on D&H: C’s deal for Rip Hamilton unlikely anytime soon||01.26.11 at 11:55 am ET|
Sports Illustrated NBA writer Chris Mannix joined the Dale & Holley show Wednesday morning to talk about the Celtics and the NBA.
There’s a rumor going around that the Celtics are interested in Pistons shooting guard Richard Hamilton, but Mannix downplayed it.
“That’s just a rumor,” he said. “The only way they acquire him is by buyout. Right now, the ownership situation in Detroit is in such flux that that buyout, it ain’t coming anytime soon. And I’d be really surprised if it came before March 1st.”
Mannix acknowledged that “Hamilton would be a great asset in Boston” and “something has to happen” because Hamilton and coach John Kuester are at odds. However, Mannix said, “I just don’t see him getting bought out right now. He’s owed $25 million over the next two years. If he’s not willing to take a significant pay cut from that ‘ and I’m talking in the $16 [million], 17 million range ‘ he’s just not going anywhere. Now as long as the ownership situation is so up in the air out here.”
“To see him come back this early from what can only be described as a devastating knee injury, is unbelievable,” Mannix said. “Certainly, he’s got a long way to go. From watching that game, he has no lift on his legs right now. That’s going to take time to come back, to re-develop that explosiveness that he once had right around the rim. But it’s an amazing story, getting him back this quickly.”
Added Mannix: “I expect over the next two months for him to kind of be a work in progress. But that fact that he’s back now, that bodes well for Boston. Because it seems like if you give him a couple of months to get his legs back under him, come late March, early April, he should be back to close to the form he once was.”